WEBVTT 00:00:15.818 --> 00:00:16.866 And welcome to the Concealed Carry 00:00:16.866 --> 00:00:21.448 Podcast, part of the ConcealedCarry.com network, brought to you by HK. 00:00:22.418 --> 00:00:27.422 Today is Wednesday, July 29th, 2026, as of the recording of this live episode. 00:00:28.252 --> 00:00:31.770 And I'm your host, Riley Bowman. I'm joined today by Jacob Paulson. 00:00:32.263 --> 00:00:41.168 And Riley is the guy whose last name is the 115,000th most popular last name in the world. 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.486 Yeah, it's not that popular. 00:00:44.486 --> 00:00:44.761 Yeah. 00:00:44.976 --> 00:00:46.366 And yours is apparently even less so. 00:00:46.686 --> 00:00:47.636 Apparently. Yeah. 00:00:47.666 --> 00:00:48.651 How about that? 00:00:51.266 --> 00:00:53.521 Should I share the bit that I just learned about you today? 00:00:54.113 --> 00:00:54.536 Which one? 00:00:54.536 --> 00:00:56.772 Jacob Paulson is the man who. 00:00:56.969 --> 00:00:58.570 Claims to have 00:00:59.057 --> 00:01:01.596 Read the book Pride and Prejudice four times. 00:01:01.596 --> 00:01:04.851 I like Pride and Prejudice. I don't know. I mean, I'm not embarrassed by this. 00:01:06.306 --> 00:01:10.389 It's a good story. I don't know many guys that have read it four times. 00:01:10.783 --> 00:01:13.706 I mean, I've read a lot of books a lot of times. Okay. So, I mean, 00:01:13.706 --> 00:01:16.559 if we were like, hey, Jacob, how many books have you read more than once? 00:01:17.320 --> 00:01:19.781 Right? I mean, there's probably 30, 40 books on that list. 00:01:20.576 --> 00:01:23.009 But, yeah, no, I like Pride and Pride. I think it's a really good book. 00:01:24.106 --> 00:01:27.586 Yeah. I don't disagree. It's a fantastic story. I think it's a good story. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. 00:01:27.586 --> 00:01:33.286 For sure. In my opinion, Jane Austen's only good story, actually. But, yes, I do enjoy it. 00:01:33.606 --> 00:01:36.253 I think it's an interesting and unique fact. 00:01:37.704 --> 00:01:45.471 And I'm the guy that recently decided I need to actually read the story Ben-Hur. 00:01:45.851 --> 00:01:47.621 Yeah, like physically, like not listen to. 00:01:47.621 --> 00:01:52.951 Yeah, like I actually want to acquire an old edition of the book because it's 00:01:52.951 --> 00:01:57.041 such a, I would say at this point, I mean, it's a classic. 00:01:57.041 --> 00:01:58.671 It's a classic. Right? I think it's classic. 00:01:59.211 --> 00:02:05.719 And was one of the most widely distributed, sold, and read books in the late 1800s and early 1900s. 00:02:06.206 --> 00:02:10.433 And I think it's time that I actually read the book. 00:02:10.647 --> 00:02:13.591 Yeah, you should probably start stocking eBay for an old classic. 00:02:13.591 --> 00:02:16.601 They're widely available because, again, so many of them sold. 00:02:16.601 --> 00:02:19.053 So you can get an old edition for cheap. 00:02:20.331 --> 00:02:25.651 But it's definitely not the kind of book that you want to go trying to collect 00:02:25.651 --> 00:02:28.061 some old edition for value's sake. 00:02:28.061 --> 00:02:28.891 Because there's just too many. 00:02:28.891 --> 00:02:29.851 There's just too many of them. 00:02:31.391 --> 00:02:31.711 I got you. 00:02:32.051 --> 00:02:37.361 But I think I want to, so like, and I've got some early memories of my childhood, 00:02:37.941 --> 00:02:41.531 of my, my grandparents had a copy of Ben Hur on the shelf. 00:02:41.911 --> 00:02:43.787 And I don't know how old, but it was, it looked old. 00:02:44.425 --> 00:02:47.931 And I regret that I didn't end up with that. And I don't, you know, 00:02:47.931 --> 00:02:51.871 don't know where that ended up, you know, but, but yeah, I remember seeing it 00:02:51.871 --> 00:02:55.217 on the shelf and actually pulling it out and like looking through it a few times, 00:02:56.091 --> 00:02:57.901 and kind of wishing that I had actually read it. 00:02:58.305 --> 00:02:58.915 Yeah, I've never read it. 00:02:59.234 --> 00:03:05.511 So, yeah. I'll tell you just a quick other side note I'm currently listening 00:03:05.511 --> 00:03:07.558 to the book Franklin and Washington, 00:03:08.271 --> 00:03:11.564 and it's really it's really good it's very interesting to kind of hear the two 00:03:11.831 --> 00:03:16.504 stories of the two men you know in simultaneous fashion sure in parallel. 00:03:16.747 --> 00:03:20.625 Sure yeah yeah I mean both fascinating people 00:03:20.753 --> 00:03:21.032 Yeah. 00:03:21.651 --> 00:03:26.268 And I think I've read three Franklin biographies and maybe four Washington biographies 00:03:26.442 --> 00:03:30.387 but I've never read Franklin and Washington I am familiar with the book somewhere to read list. 00:03:30.871 --> 00:03:33.255 It's good. I recommend it. So go check it out. 00:03:34.195 --> 00:03:38.620 Let's get into today's episode. We're going to do some sponsor message reads 00:03:39.020 --> 00:03:41.480 during the episode. 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He said, I sent him the show notes for 00:05:02.693 --> 00:05:05.383 today's episode. He's like, none of this is very interesting. 00:05:05.383 --> 00:05:07.114 It's like, whatever, dude. 00:05:08.542 --> 00:05:10.866 But I think there are some, it's a little gut nerdy. There's some, 00:05:11.289 --> 00:05:12.653 I think there's some tidbits here and there. 00:05:12.781 --> 00:05:16.963 And I'm going to do my best to express where I do think some of the stories 00:05:16.963 --> 00:05:19.583 we talk about today, because this is an industry news episode. 00:05:19.583 --> 00:05:20.566 I think I failed to mention that. 00:05:21.024 --> 00:05:22.905 So we're going to share some of the most recent industry news. 00:05:23.271 --> 00:05:26.923 It's actually been kind of quiet this summer so far as far as like you know 00:05:26.923 --> 00:05:31.033 normally we would come at you with hey a couple of new gun models you know and 00:05:31.033 --> 00:05:34.271 we we generally try to stay close to concealed carry related stuff 00:05:34.579 --> 00:05:38.063 and so normally we'd be like hey there's been like four new concealed carry 00:05:38.063 --> 00:05:42.223 guns and stuff and there just hasn't been a lot recently um, 00:05:43.194 --> 00:05:45.313 but there are a couple things i think are noteworthy and we're talking about 00:05:45.313 --> 00:05:49.483 them today the first thing is that the civilian Marksmanship Program for the 00:05:49.483 --> 00:05:52.267 first time ever is going to sell. 00:05:53.923 --> 00:05:54.633 Former U.S. 00:05:54.633 --> 00:05:58.323 Government-issued M14 rifles to civilians. 00:05:59.723 --> 00:06:07.033 It's the program where people are familiar about buying 03 rifles and M1 Garands 00:06:07.033 --> 00:06:11.963 and M1 Carbines and different things through that special purchase program through 00:06:11.963 --> 00:06:13.013 Civilian Marksmanship Program. 00:06:13.803 --> 00:06:16.763 But I think this is the first time the M14s have been made available. 00:06:17.186 --> 00:06:21.593 There were over a million of those things in government inventory at one time. 00:06:21.593 --> 00:06:26.939 I don't know if that's how many there are available to be now sold to civilians. 00:06:27.438 --> 00:06:29.417 You're kind of bearing the lead a little bit, though. 00:06:30.336 --> 00:06:30.817 Okay. 00:06:31.419 --> 00:06:33.299 Because they're going to modify these. 00:06:33.299 --> 00:06:39.659 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. People hear M14 and they're thinking, oh, full auto. 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.900 And technically these are pre-86, you know, guns. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. 00:06:45.173 --> 00:06:49.806 No, I was going to get to that. I was just saying. But it is noteworthy that 00:06:50.102 --> 00:06:53.033 these are becoming available for the first time ever. 00:06:53.184 --> 00:06:53.468 Yes. 00:06:54.043 --> 00:06:58.379 And yes, what you just said is true, Jacob, that they are going to be, 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:05.203 they just said permanently and irreversibly modified to be semi-automatic only right uh, 00:07:05.979 --> 00:07:11.439 so don't get too excited about being able to get your hands on a 386 m14 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:17.139 or something uh there'll be semi-automatic only versions that have been modified 00:07:17.267 --> 00:07:22.189 supposedly irreversibly i don't know what that exactly means but you know as 00:07:22.189 --> 00:07:23.479 far as how they're doing that yeah. 00:07:24.273 --> 00:07:27.549 I mean i anticipate there's a lot of people who have like an emotional like 00:07:27.549 --> 00:07:31.649 sentimental connection to that platform to that rifle right so yeah um i think 00:07:31.649 --> 00:07:34.329 that there's people some people probably listen to this like oh my gosh like 00:07:34.329 --> 00:07:35.773 i would love to have one of those yeah yeah 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:42.019 Yeah the you know the m14 of course was the natural uh evolution of the m1 grand sure uh, 00:07:42.499 --> 00:07:49.780 is probably i mean imagine if we had the m14 even a semi-automatic version in 00:07:50.013 --> 00:07:52.989 world war ii as opposed to the m1 grand you know with a, 00:07:53.739 --> 00:07:58.999 detachable box magazine 20 round capacity instead of like eight round clips uh, 00:07:59.479 --> 00:08:03.809 would have like been even a greater fighting you know weapon for a conflict 00:08:03.809 --> 00:08:08.895 like that the m14 was kind of dune from the outset because it was a fantastic i think, 00:08:09.388 --> 00:08:15.321 uh evolution and upgrade to the original m1 but it just came at a time where 00:08:15.594 --> 00:08:20.046 the world and the military was like why would we want to lug around you know a, 00:08:20.731 --> 00:08:27.504 10 or 12 pound rifle or whatever yeah you know much bigger heavier uh woodstocked 00:08:27.504 --> 00:08:33.793 gun uh that you know into damp environments and things and you know so it just kind of. 00:08:33.944 --> 00:08:35.684 Kind of a solution to a problem that didn't exist 00:08:35.684 --> 00:08:40.464 Anymore yeah yeah but uh i remember thinking that it was one of the coolest 00:08:40.464 --> 00:08:43.284 guns ever when i was a kid i still think they're pretty cool so i don't know 00:08:43.284 --> 00:08:45.362 what the price on these are going to be when they finally hit the, 00:08:46.239 --> 00:08:51.064 the cmp's shelves uh says that they should be available the first order should 00:08:51.064 --> 00:08:55.068 be available between late 2026 and early 2027, 00:08:55.892 --> 00:09:00.478 um i will definitely be checking that out because if i can get my hands on one 00:09:00.844 --> 00:09:05.394 for reasonable price yeah so here here's our first comment reasonable define 00:09:05.510 --> 00:09:09.134 michael on facebook saying does anyone know the price point and and i haven't 00:09:09.134 --> 00:09:10.294 seen anything published yet so. 00:09:10.294 --> 00:09:11.176 That is the question 00:09:11.489 --> 00:09:14.362 Yeah so we'll see but that'll be pretty cool, 00:09:15.424 --> 00:09:24.051 Speaking of M1s or M14s, so the next story here is about auto-ordinance. 00:09:24.051 --> 00:09:26.349 This is a new gun kind of hitting the shelves. 00:09:26.982 --> 00:09:31.141 Auto-ordinance has made a name for itself, the M1 carbine, and they've sold 00:09:31.141 --> 00:09:34.673 a lot of their modern versions of this over the years. 00:09:35.791 --> 00:09:37.686 They're actually coming out with a shorty version. 00:09:38.040 --> 00:09:38.371 Oh. 00:09:38.487 --> 00:09:43.160 Yeah, kind of interesting. So it's an M1 carbine, but with a 12-inch barrel. 00:09:43.659 --> 00:09:46.417 And that classifies it as an SBR. 00:09:47.391 --> 00:09:51.651 Everything else about it is about what you expect. It's got the wood stock on 00:09:51.651 --> 00:09:55.171 it and everything, but it's a 12-inch barreled M1 carbine. 00:09:55.443 --> 00:10:01.334 So this is a, you know, you'd have to get an NFA tax stamp for this. 00:10:01.549 --> 00:10:05.711 But because that's become such an easier process now and one that doesn't have 00:10:05.711 --> 00:10:10.771 the $200 tax stamp fee along with it, I think that's where auto-ordination sees 00:10:10.771 --> 00:10:16.231 this opportunity to be like, hey, let's make a short-barreled version of the M1 carbine. 00:10:16.231 --> 00:10:21.231 There's also a lot of holding of breath right now that the NFA just might go 00:10:21.231 --> 00:10:27.364 away a little bit, or we might see more positive impacts to the NFA in the next 12 months. 00:10:28.095 --> 00:10:31.551 The other interesting thing about it is it will have, so it's a 12-inch barrel, 00:10:31.551 --> 00:10:33.465 but it'll have half-inch by 28, 00:10:34.251 --> 00:10:37.314 threading on the barrel, so you can attach easily a suppressor, 00:10:37.708 --> 00:10:42.401 and that is where it kind of gets interesting as far as being able to put a 00:10:42.401 --> 00:10:48.209 suppressor on it that retains the original overall length of an M1 carbine and now have it suppressed. 00:10:48.656 --> 00:10:53.161 Okay. Kind of cool, right? So modern means old. Hence the title of this episode, 00:10:53.161 --> 00:10:55.797 which is talking about old iron and new iron. 00:10:56.571 --> 00:11:01.031 We have some newer updates for you in the industry news as well. 00:11:02.204 --> 00:11:08.862 But yeah, so this is kind of old meeting new all in one with a newer flavor of the M1 carbine. 00:11:09.983 --> 00:11:14.245 Uh, the price tag is maybe a little steep though. I saw this as well. 00:11:14.245 --> 00:11:18.805 I know they got some comments online about this being a little steep and I'm 00:11:18.805 --> 00:11:22.208 kind of like, yeah, it'd be cool, but it's not $1,800 cool. 00:11:22.498 --> 00:11:23.345 $1,800. 00:11:23.345 --> 00:11:26.895 It's $1,800 for this new shorty M1 carbine. Tough sell. Yeah. 00:11:26.895 --> 00:11:27.763 It's tough sell. Yeah. 00:11:29.012 --> 00:11:31.775 So, but if it floats your boat, then, hey. 00:11:32.210 --> 00:11:34.556 There's some people out there who just got immense amount of cash. 00:11:34.556 --> 00:11:35.414 You know, they'll buy it. 00:11:36.274 --> 00:11:43.234 Yeah, yeah. Cool. All right. Now, speaking of CMP, a moment ago. 00:11:44.696 --> 00:11:49.966 One of the reasons that they, well, one of the big benefits of their purchase 00:11:49.966 --> 00:11:53.516 program where you can buy these old surplus military firearms, 00:11:53.516 --> 00:11:56.368 1911s, M1s, and so forth, now M14s soon, 00:11:57.564 --> 00:12:01.316 is that it helps fund a lot of shooting programs. 00:12:01.316 --> 00:12:08.675 We're talking new ranges, education programs, youth programs, adult programs alike. 00:12:09.876 --> 00:12:18.485 And CMP has benefited many ranges across the country with special investments and grants into ranges. 00:12:19.276 --> 00:12:23.746 We are living in a time that, I mean, a lot of outdoor ranges in particular, 00:12:23.746 --> 00:12:28.676 Jacob, are under a threat of being, you know, taken away. Sure. 00:12:29.076 --> 00:12:33.149 We're talking about, you know, suburban encroachment, different issues like that. 00:12:34.036 --> 00:12:35.356 Well, that's the big issue for sure. 00:12:35.356 --> 00:12:41.386 For sure, right? And it's hard to start up a new range because you need a lot of land. 00:12:41.949 --> 00:12:48.216 You need a lot of money to develop it properly into a suitable range so that investment can be 00:12:48.596 --> 00:12:52.846 you know a really tough sell for a lot of people to because and then making 00:12:52.846 --> 00:12:55.990 that money back sometimes is it takes years and years and years and years so 00:12:56.269 --> 00:12:58.028 you don't see a ton of private, 00:12:58.666 --> 00:13:02.172 businesses i mean they're out there but you don't see a lot of private entities 00:13:02.486 --> 00:13:06.076 starting outdoor ranges the perfect purpose of being for profit uh, 00:13:07.397 --> 00:13:12.366 that you know aren't and then Part of that is sometimes ranges end up being 00:13:12.366 --> 00:13:15.976 so far away from major cities that they just don't get the traffic. 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:17.916 That's one of the challenges. 00:13:17.916 --> 00:13:18.796 Right? If you don't. 00:13:18.796 --> 00:13:20.696 Because you want it to be close enough, people will go to it. 00:13:21.085 --> 00:13:24.496 But if you're too close, 20 years from now, all of a sudden you're getting sued 00:13:24.496 --> 00:13:28.202 by the subdivision that set up shop next to you, right? 00:13:29.131 --> 00:13:35.586 So I thought this story was notable, particularly with interest to you, Jacob, as a Wyoming boy. 00:13:36.149 --> 00:13:44.160 But the CMP has issued a $10 million challenge grant. Now, this is important. 00:13:44.671 --> 00:13:50.083 It is a grant that it means the CMP, the Civilian Marksmanship Program, 00:13:50.083 --> 00:13:57.678 will donate up to $10 million for the development of a new range near Cody, Wyoming. 00:13:58.553 --> 00:14:04.233 But it is a dollar for dollar match so for every dollar that they are able to 00:14:04.233 --> 00:14:06.606 get an investment for this new range, 00:14:07.513 --> 00:14:11.933 uh in cody the cmp will match that up to 10 million dollars i mean just that's 00:14:11.993 --> 00:14:18.443 significant right so um and it says in the article this is the largest private investment, 00:14:19.859 --> 00:14:22.973 um you know in this project and it's probably one of the largest private investments 00:14:22.973 --> 00:14:25.293 i've ever heard for a new startup range. 00:14:26.314 --> 00:14:27.713 So, and this range in Wyoming has been... 00:14:29.835 --> 00:14:36.115 It might be the project that never ends. So not the current governor of Wyoming, 00:14:36.115 --> 00:14:37.570 but the previous governor of Wyoming. 00:14:38.058 --> 00:14:42.098 He invested quite a bit in the range that's there not far from Cheyenne, outside of Cheyenne. 00:14:42.505 --> 00:14:48.555 And this land outside of Cody, Wyoming, was kind of purchased and identified 00:14:48.555 --> 00:14:50.932 for this purpose back in his tenure. 00:14:51.695 --> 00:14:57.590 And now he's been out for some time. And in the last legislative session, 00:14:58.335 --> 00:15:00.876 Wyoming, the legislator voted, 00:15:02.095 --> 00:15:07.401 A resolution was passed to earmark specific amount of funds for this gun range 00:15:07.616 --> 00:15:09.630 outside of Cody. And I can't remember the dollar amount. 00:15:10.025 --> 00:15:12.103 It was something, it was either 1 million or 10 million bucks. 00:15:12.451 --> 00:15:16.648 But it was known that that money was not going to get the job done. 00:15:17.229 --> 00:15:21.902 It was sort of like, hey, this will get the ball rolling so we can start to develop this gun range. 00:15:22.546 --> 00:15:26.115 And so I suspect that what you have is 00:15:26.935 --> 00:15:30.058 I don't know who approached you I'm making this up Jacob's arbitrary guessing 00:15:30.435 --> 00:15:34.045 but someone said hey we got some money earmarked from the state to get started 00:15:34.045 --> 00:15:39.671 on this project let's go out and see if we can get some additional funds coming from external sources 00:15:40.535 --> 00:15:42.840 so some money's already been earmarked from the state it's going to get spent 00:15:43.165 --> 00:15:47.645 the legislator voted on it I mean the governor signed the resolution or the 00:15:47.645 --> 00:15:48.975 bill or whatever the thing was 00:15:48.975 --> 00:15:51.915 that passed and so it's going to happen now It's going to move forward. 00:15:51.915 --> 00:15:55.245 And so this additional funding, which is a challenge grant will work out just 00:15:55.245 --> 00:15:57.723 fine because the money has already been allocated by the state, 00:15:57.851 --> 00:16:00.810 is going to roll out. Now, there's a couple of downsides. 00:16:01.575 --> 00:16:03.208 This is the best news 00:16:04.125 --> 00:16:10.024 ever if you live in cody wyoming it really is like you are if you live in cody 00:16:10.024 --> 00:16:14.544 wyoming and you're a shooter you are out of your mind yeah pumped 00:16:14.544 --> 00:16:16.874 You're talking about long range rifle shooting. 00:16:17.294 --> 00:16:18.388 All the things man 00:16:18.568 --> 00:16:20.774 Uh shotgun shooting archery. 00:16:21.094 --> 00:16:25.064 Wyoming is really setting out to build like a world-class like best range in 00:16:25.064 --> 00:16:29.424 the country they really are yeah like the land is there um it's it's i mean 00:16:29.424 --> 00:16:34.289 the weather is amazing for like three weeks a year i mean they are they are they They are on it, 00:16:34.950 --> 00:16:37.454 but there's a couple of problems. 00:16:37.454 --> 00:16:42.514 One, I already mentioned the weather like this. This is not a place that has 00:16:42.514 --> 00:16:45.314 like fabulous year round weather. This is not the Whittington center. 00:16:45.794 --> 00:16:47.094 You know, this is not talking 00:16:47.094 --> 00:16:48.494 June 1st through October. 00:16:48.494 --> 00:16:52.254 1st, right now. Luckily it's also not Cheyenne. 00:16:52.254 --> 00:16:55.614 So you don't have a huge wind problem. I mean, it's not that it's that there's 00:16:55.614 --> 00:16:58.592 no wind outside of Cody, Wyoming, because it's still Wyoming, 00:16:59.236 --> 00:17:03.694 but it's, yeah. I mean, you have a short season. And this is an outdoor gun 00:17:03.694 --> 00:17:05.198 range in Wyoming. Like I'm just, 00:17:05.965 --> 00:17:09.889 And, you know, your nearest airport is probably Denver. 00:17:11.608 --> 00:17:16.051 It's like a 10-hour drive to a decent airport. I'm sorry. 00:17:16.451 --> 00:17:19.831 Riley had to turn down my sound. I'm getting a little bit animated. 00:17:19.831 --> 00:17:21.761 He's pegging the top of the meter here. 00:17:21.761 --> 00:17:27.401 So anyway, you know, Cody does have that awesome fire museum. 00:17:27.401 --> 00:17:29.185 It's not too far from the Cody Fire Museum. Yep. 00:17:29.690 --> 00:17:31.811 Which is a world-class museum. 00:17:31.811 --> 00:17:36.251 Right. Also in the middle of nowhere. So I guess, I mean, maybe... 00:17:37.611 --> 00:17:40.581 But here's the other thing. It's really close to Yellowstone National Park. 00:17:40.581 --> 00:17:41.551 It is very close to Yellowstone. 00:17:41.551 --> 00:17:42.902 Which is a very popular destination. 00:17:43.297 --> 00:17:47.341 Yeah, for Asians. I'm joking. That's not true. That was a joke. 00:17:47.341 --> 00:17:50.951 Whoever's listening right now, I'm sorry. That was... I didn't mean it. 00:17:50.951 --> 00:17:53.071 We're going to get the show canceled, Jacob. Come on. 00:17:53.071 --> 00:17:55.962 Everyone goes to Yellowstone. It is the second most... 00:17:56.166 --> 00:17:57.471 It's one of your favorite places on Earth. 00:17:57.571 --> 00:18:00.618 Or third most visited national parks in the country. And I go every four years. 00:18:01.013 --> 00:18:05.047 It's fantastic. I love Yellowstone. People come from all around the world. 00:18:05.911 --> 00:18:12.333 But Yellowstone is a six-hour drive from the closest relative decent airport, which is Salt Lake City. 00:18:12.449 --> 00:18:14.405 There is an airport in Cody. It's a small airport. 00:18:15.851 --> 00:18:17.951 Qualifying that as an airport is pushing the envelope. 00:18:18.371 --> 00:18:20.088 There's an airport in Jackson. Jackson Hole. 00:18:20.448 --> 00:18:24.071 Only Bill Clinton can afford to fly in and out of the Jackson Hole Airport. 00:18:24.811 --> 00:18:26.717 You can fly into Casper. 00:18:27.182 --> 00:18:32.051 Or Rock Springs or Billings, Montana if you've got the money. Okay, here's the thing. 00:18:32.051 --> 00:18:36.330 All right, let me bring it really in a little bit here. 00:18:36.864 --> 00:18:44.508 I have attended two, I think, two different three-gun matches at that facility in Cody. 00:18:45.333 --> 00:18:47.138 And they drew a pretty good crowd. 00:18:47.138 --> 00:18:48.198 I guess shooters will travel. 00:18:48.998 --> 00:18:51.718 Shooters will travel. And I think that's part of what they're going for because 00:18:51.718 --> 00:18:56.738 they are going to build a whole bunch of like practical pistol, 00:18:57.138 --> 00:19:00.538 action pistol shooting, you know, competition style shooting bays. Yeah, okay. 00:19:00.998 --> 00:19:06.618 Here's the thing. World-class range facility that is in a state that is friendly 00:19:06.618 --> 00:19:09.296 to firearms and has favorable firearms laws. 00:19:09.731 --> 00:19:12.918 Because Colorado basically tried to build a world-class range. 00:19:12.918 --> 00:19:16.118 And they did. They succeeded in building the world-class range in Colorado, 00:19:16.118 --> 00:19:20.838 Cameo Colorado to be specific, and wanted to host world-class, 00:19:20.838 --> 00:19:25.613 huge national and world championship level events. Problem is, it's in Colorado. 00:19:25.857 --> 00:19:26.043 Yeah. 00:19:27.668 --> 00:19:32.818 And so it's like there's a big disconnect here between people at the highest 00:19:32.818 --> 00:19:36.198 levels of the state thinking, let's build a world-class facility and bring in 00:19:36.198 --> 00:19:39.557 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of shooters for big events. 00:19:40.016 --> 00:19:43.492 And then those shooters don't want to come here because our laws are restrictive. 00:19:44.101 --> 00:19:49.528 And so uh i think they're trying to do something similar in cody and uh i think 00:19:49.528 --> 00:19:53.728 there will be some large competition type events that they'll hold there that 00:19:53.728 --> 00:19:54.956 will draw in a lot of people, 00:19:56.118 --> 00:19:59.778 uh and they're going to use the draw of things like the cody firearms museum 00:19:59.778 --> 00:20:04.188 and yelston national park as additional like yes we know it's not the easiest 00:20:04.188 --> 00:20:09.808 thing in the world to get here but come here and do all these other things. 00:20:09.808 --> 00:20:12.940 Yeah i mean you're gonna have to stay at least a night in a hotel getting here 00:20:13.231 --> 00:20:15.798 and another one getting out somewhere in the state. 00:20:17.828 --> 00:20:23.691 You can't access this range without being on a two-lane highway. Anyway, that's enough. 00:20:24.518 --> 00:20:28.428 I'm saying all these negative things about the state that I love and cherish 00:20:28.428 --> 00:20:31.298 as my home state. Many of the things 00:20:31.298 --> 00:20:32.558 You love about it are. 00:20:33.218 --> 00:20:39.678 The things I'm saying. But does it make sense? Is it the national destination for shooting? 00:20:40.598 --> 00:20:41.127 I don't think so. 00:20:41.974 --> 00:20:44.920 You do have things like the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:49.140 New Mexico, that, again, is not really close to anything and is a destination, 00:20:50.101 --> 00:20:53.549 for a lot of folks shooting-wise. That is a ridiculous comparison. 00:20:54.483 --> 00:20:58.930 Ridiculous. How far is Raton, New Mexico from the Albuquerque airport? 00:21:00.800 --> 00:21:07.090 Raton to Albuquerque is probably, what, probably still three to four hours? 00:21:07.090 --> 00:21:08.270 Three to four hours. 00:21:08.700 --> 00:21:09.520 Somewhere in that ballpark. 00:21:09.520 --> 00:21:11.062 How far is Cody from – 00:21:13.220 --> 00:21:17.360 I don't know if Salt Lake or Denver would be closer. That's a Google app. 00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:18.360 I hear what you're saying. 00:21:18.360 --> 00:21:18.860 Eight hours? 00:21:20.340 --> 00:21:22.610 No, I think what you said earlier, six, seven, six. 00:21:22.610 --> 00:21:27.322 No, not from Denver. From the Denver airport, it's more than six hours. 00:21:27.758 --> 00:21:30.260 I think it's seven. The problem with the Salt Lake airport is you basically 00:21:30.260 --> 00:21:32.400 have to go through Yellowstone to get to Salt Lake airport. 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:32.600 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:33.278 --> 00:21:41.310 So anyway, the point is, I don't get it, but I know that shooters will travel, 00:21:41.310 --> 00:21:47.011 and I'm thrilled that Wyoming is willing to invest the time, energy, and resources. 00:21:47.592 --> 00:21:53.803 And for the 10% of the country's populace who knows where Wyoming is, 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:56.520 I'm sure that we're thrilled too. 00:21:58.209 --> 00:21:59.580 Let's move on to the next story. 00:22:00.020 --> 00:22:02.600 There's going to be more shooting bays than there are people. 00:22:05.762 --> 00:22:12.130 Oh man there are more people in our county that you and I live in than there 00:22:12.130 --> 00:22:14.759 are in the state of Wyoming oh yeah by like double 00:22:15.137 --> 00:22:23.260 I know it's crazy a friend of mine actually retired and moved to Cody so he's loving life there. 00:22:23.660 --> 00:22:26.060 I'm sure he is if you like it you love it 00:22:27.601 --> 00:22:31.194 Here's some new firearm news for you. I told you there wasn't much, but there is a little. 00:22:32.284 --> 00:22:36.946 This is, I don't remember exactly when this was announced first, but this is kind of cool. 00:22:37.375 --> 00:22:41.624 This is the new Caltech Sub-SDP is what it's called. 00:22:42.252 --> 00:22:48.376 And it is the Sub-2000 in a smaller footprint. We're talking six-inch barrel, 00:22:49.564 --> 00:22:54.784 with a brace attached to the stock and all together can be collapsed to a total 00:22:54.784 --> 00:22:56.950 overall length of 10 inches. 00:22:57.904 --> 00:23:02.923 Um, and, uh, so yeah, it's a pistol variant of the sub 2000, 00:23:03.295 --> 00:23:07.323 uh, again, six inch barrel does have threads. You want to put a suppressor on it. 00:23:07.683 --> 00:23:10.844 Uh, you can, you can mount an optic on it. You can, you know, 00:23:10.844 --> 00:23:11.644 do those kinds of things. 00:23:11.644 --> 00:23:16.104 I think they have a variation where it comes with, uh, uh, like an attachment 00:23:16.104 --> 00:23:20.934 on the, the forearm of, of it that you can, um, put a spare magazine, 00:23:20.934 --> 00:23:23.682 you know, kind of like the, what am I thinking of the pistol? 00:23:24.604 --> 00:23:29.284 Um, all those conversion things. who's the hot one right now? 00:23:29.324 --> 00:23:32.294 I'm drawing a blank all of a sudden even though I'm quite familiar with the product. I don't know. 00:23:32.294 --> 00:23:36.824 They keep emailing me. They want me to come shoot one on Thursday. 00:23:36.824 --> 00:23:40.904 You can have like a spare magazine stored up front where it acts like a front 00:23:41.304 --> 00:23:43.679 kind of like the forearm or the firearm. 00:23:44.564 --> 00:23:48.804 So anyway, Sub2000 SDP. 00:23:51.044 --> 00:23:53.036 It's worth watching the marketing video. 00:23:53.764 --> 00:23:55.776 That's the most noteworthy thing here I think actually. 00:23:56.864 --> 00:23:58.224 You should make sure it's in the show notes. 00:23:59.224 --> 00:24:06.649 The link is attached here. So you want to go see this new marketing video from Caltech. It's good. 00:24:07.142 --> 00:24:12.244 You know, it's funny. I think Caltech is so busy asking themselves if they can 00:24:12.244 --> 00:24:14.094 build it that they never ask if they should build it. 00:24:14.104 --> 00:24:15.404 That's always been the thing with Caltech. 00:24:15.404 --> 00:24:16.268 Right, right. Yeah, like... 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:21.420 Can we do this? Yeah, we can. All right, let's do it. Like there's zero question about it. 00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:22.659 But you know what? People buy them. 00:24:22.857 --> 00:24:23.211 Yeah. 00:24:23.518 --> 00:24:26.235 And this gun, I tell you, I saw the marketing video and I was like, 00:24:27.030 --> 00:24:28.480 depending on the price, I'd pick that up. 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.687 Well, there's a standard version for $599, $600. 00:24:34.700 --> 00:24:35.100 Okay. 00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:39.040 And then there's a $799, so $200 more gets you, 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:46.656 the gun with a Vortex Crossfire optic mounted plus two 27 round Magpul P mags, 00:24:47.085 --> 00:24:50.280 a compensator and an M lock magazine holder. 00:24:50.280 --> 00:24:53.180 And I think that's the thing that attaches that you can, so you can, 00:24:53.500 --> 00:24:56.890 you'll get those two magazines with the gun that are 27 rounds and you can have 00:24:57.151 --> 00:25:00.360 one clipped in at that, that magazine holder in the front. And then of course, 00:25:00.360 --> 00:25:02.161 one of the actual mag well of the gun. 00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:07.257 So, you know, it's probably not a terrible price point for what it is. 00:25:07.443 --> 00:25:12.209 I have a subject sub 2000. I like it a lot. I've got one of the older models, 00:25:13.742 --> 00:25:15.553 and it's a great shooter. 00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:20.470 I don't like mine. It's still very compact. I mean, you fold it in half and it's 16 inches long. 00:25:20.470 --> 00:25:23.960 I think it's hard to shoot. I think it's hard to get a cheek weld. 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:28.011 I mean, if you mount an optic on it, it starts to get a little bit more reasonable. 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:31.070 But it's hard to shoot the irons for me. 00:25:31.070 --> 00:25:34.310 I've got a couple of kids. A couple of my kids have shot mine, 00:25:34.310 --> 00:25:36.100 and they just think it's awesome. 00:25:36.257 --> 00:25:37.260 Yeah, I struggle with that gun. 00:25:38.057 --> 00:25:38.498 Anyway. 00:25:38.637 --> 00:25:43.140 But I like Kiltech. as a company, I think that they make guns that are relatively 00:25:43.140 --> 00:25:45.481 reliable. They're just all a little bit bizarre. 00:25:46.102 --> 00:25:50.131 Yeah, most of the guns I've owned, theirs have been quite reliable. 00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:53.400 Check out the video. You'll want to watch that marketing video. 00:25:53.780 --> 00:25:54.972 It's awesome. It's hilarious. 00:25:55.740 --> 00:26:00.350 Did you catch the part where they're supposedly in some urban environment trying 00:26:00.350 --> 00:26:06.536 to repel an alien invasion, and he's about to shoulder the brace, 00:26:06.844 --> 00:26:09.510 and his compadre is like, whoa, hey, it is a pistol. 00:26:09.510 --> 00:26:14.520 And he's like, oh yeah you're right and then goes one arm with it yeah fantastic 00:26:14.520 --> 00:26:16.666 it was great well done yeah, 00:26:17.908 --> 00:26:22.049 Let's now talk about another new gun. And I feel really dumb, 00:26:22.049 --> 00:26:26.546