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<v Riley Bowman>And welcome to the Concealed Carry

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<v Riley Bowman>Podcast, part of the ConcealedCarry.com network, brought to you by HK.

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<v Riley Bowman>Today is Thursday, May 21st, 2026, as of the live recording of this episode.

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<v Riley Bowman>And I am your host, Riley Bowman, and I'm joined today by an old friend who

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<v Riley Bowman>has come back, Brian McLaughlin.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Thanks for having me, Riley.

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<v Riley Bowman>Glad to have you, my man. It's been too long.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>It has been a little while. Feels good to be back.

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<v Riley Bowman>Yeah. As many of you probably have figured out, Brian's gone on to some other

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<v Riley Bowman>opportunities these last couple of years. We've missed him dearly.

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<v Riley Bowman>It was good times back in the day when we had you on the podcast pretty regularly.

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<v Riley Bowman>And of course, you, you know, producing a bunch of content and stuff for Mountain

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<v Riley Bowman>Man Medical YouTube channel and different things.

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<v Riley Bowman>And so we have a lot to thank Brian for, for all the work he put in here for years. it's

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<v Brian McLaughlin>My pleasure it's fun hanging out with you guys having a blast.

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<v Riley Bowman>Yeah uh today uh

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<v Riley Bowman>one of the reasons i i called you up or

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<v Riley Bowman>i texted you and i was like hey man i'd like you to come on uh it's

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<v Riley Bowman>stop the bleed month stop the bleed day in

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<v Riley Bowman>fact is today um thursday may 21st stop the bleed day so this this whole week

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<v Riley Bowman>we're celebrating a stop the bleed week and the month is like i said stop the

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<v Riley Bowman>bleed month uh so we got big promotion going on right now you could save a pretty

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<v Riley Bowman>good chunk I think it's 15% off at mountainmanmedical.com.

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<v Riley Bowman>Go to mountainmanmedical.com forward slash STB for stop the bleed,

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<v Riley Bowman>mountainmanmedical.com forward slash STB.

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<v Riley Bowman>And stock up on and save big on trauma kits and gear.

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<v Riley Bowman>I think it's all components, all the kits. So even if you just want to get a

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<v Riley Bowman>refill kit or just buy a few components that you need to refresh some things

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<v Riley Bowman>with or put together your own kit. And we have very competitive pricing on all

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<v Riley Bowman>the different components.

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<v Riley Bowman>And all the kits, of course, are also very competitively priced.

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<v Riley Bowman>Sometimes people ask the question, Brian, you know, why should I buy one of

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<v Riley Bowman>you all's kits versus just make my own kit?

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<v Riley Bowman>I don't know. Do you have any thoughts on that?

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Well, I mean, we get it wholesale, so we get it cheaper. So you'll spend less

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<v Brian McLaughlin>money if we put it together for you.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>And I'm pretty proud of the kits that I put together. They've got all of the major components.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>You're not going to make a better kit. What I would recommend is if there's

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<v Brian McLaughlin>extra things that you want to add in there,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>there's extra space that we designed into the kit

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<v Brian McLaughlin>so that you can add your own products in to kind

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<v Brian McLaughlin>of make it your own because everybody has their own style their own things that

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<v Brian McLaughlin>they are going to encounter their own uh jobs and that kind of stuff so having

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<v Brian McLaughlin>your own kit set up with the things that you need in it are important but our

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<v Brian McLaughlin>kits are set up with all the essential items so you just buy one of our kits

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<v Brian McLaughlin>and then add in what are little extras you got so yeah yeah.

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<v Riley Bowman>Yeah, and actually something that's really exciting is that recently we just

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<v Riley Bowman>got our own branded Mountain Man Medical branded compression bandages.

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<v Riley Bowman>They're called the Bridger Compression Bandage, and they're an awesome bandage.

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<v Riley Bowman>They've got a great, highly absorbent gauze pad on them.

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<v Riley Bowman>The elastic that helps wrap and then compress that bandage to help control bleeding

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<v Riley Bowman>or keep things in place on a wound or whatever.

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<v Riley Bowman>It's a nice upgraded material. We tested our own bandage.

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<v Riley Bowman>When I say we tested, we tested a couple of iterations and kept going back to

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<v Riley Bowman>the drawing board and getting some revisions from the manufacturer until we

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<v Riley Bowman>got it dialed in just the way we wanted it.

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<v Riley Bowman>So check out the new Bridger Compression Bandage. It's now

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<v Riley Bowman>what's used in place of some of

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<v Riley Bowman>the other products we had in the past that filled that that product category

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<v Riley Bowman>kind of a small uh you know sort of

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<v Riley Bowman>a mini compression bandage i mean like you have things like an israeli bandage

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<v Riley Bowman>or an elias bandage those are bigger bandages and they do basically the same

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<v Riley Bowman>thing this is really a good product for some of those more compact needs you

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<v Riley Bowman>got an ankle kit or some of the smaller IFACs.

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<v Riley Bowman>It fits really well in those kits.

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<v Riley Bowman>And some of the other products, since they discontinued the H&H mini compression

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<v Riley Bowman>bandage, which was the thing that we really liked several years ago,

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<v Riley Bowman>but they discontinued it, we have not been happy with a lot of the other products

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<v Riley Bowman>since then until we could get our own made.

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<v Riley Bowman>So we're very excited about the new Bridger compression bandage from Mountain Medical.

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<v Riley Bowman>Anyway, mountainmedical.com to help celebrate this

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<v Riley Bowman>month of stop the bleed and pick up some products at a pretty good discount.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Absolutely. That Bridger, I would want to say I was playing around with that

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Bridger pressure dressing right before we were talking here.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>And I was impressed with the quality of the elastic band.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>And part of the concept here is you've got something that's very compact,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>means it's more likely that you're going to carry it, right?

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<v Brian McLaughlin>The bigger that an item gets when it comes to the personal kit that you're going

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<v Brian McLaughlin>to carry, the less likely you're going to take it with you.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>These are the same basic concepts behind a concealed carry gun.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>You want to have something that's concealable that you're going to wear.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>That's why you don't wear a Desert Eagle because it's going to be uncomfortable. It's sustainable.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So having something that's kind of small and in your kit all the time means

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<v Brian McLaughlin>that you're going to have that product on hand for when you absolutely need it.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>And that's one of those essential items. You can't get away from having a good

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<v Brian McLaughlin>trauma kit if you don't have pressure dressings in it.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Along with those pressure dressings you have to have

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<v Brian McLaughlin>wound packing material because that's what's stopping

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<v Brian McLaughlin>all of your bleeding right so you're going to pack wounds

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<v Brian McLaughlin>you're going to pack all of the junctions all the areas that

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<v Brian McLaughlin>you can't get a tourniquet on and you're going to pack that wound packing down

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<v Brian McLaughlin>into it and then you're going to apply that pressure dressing and that's going

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<v Brian McLaughlin>to keep that wound packing down in place and clamping off that artery that's

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<v Brian McLaughlin>why we're going to get our bleeding control so and it's an essential item it's

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<v Brian McLaughlin>a great piece of kit if you don't have any in your own personal trauma kids

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<v Brian McLaughlin>highly highly recommend yeah.

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<v Riley Bowman>Awesome thanks for that info brian hey eddie on facebook says hello guys my

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<v Riley Bowman>favorite podcast oh eddie

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Thank you yes.

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<v Riley Bowman>And we eddie we recognize you of course you've been a long time listener slash

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<v Riley Bowman>watcher uh here on facebook thank you for joining us and others uh joining us as well on youtube today

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<v Riley Bowman>Today's episode is also sponsored by the 2026 Guardian Conference.

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<v Riley Bowman>And last year, you weren't able to join us, Brian, but Brian's going to be back

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<v Riley Bowman>this year for the Guardian Conference teaching some awesome trauma courses.

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<v Riley Bowman>We'll probably talk about that some more later in the episode. But guys,

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<v Riley Bowman>if you want to get some awesome training and not just in shooting,

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<v Riley Bowman>but in medical and kind of tactical casualty care type stuff,

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<v Riley Bowman>you're going to want to be at the 2026 Guardian Conference in Oklahoma City

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<v Riley Bowman>in September of this year.

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<v Riley Bowman>You're also going to get opportunities to train with some world-class trainers

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<v Riley Bowman>on combatives and legal courses and all kinds of things to help make you a better,

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<v Riley Bowman>more well-rounded, more prepared person,

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<v Riley Bowman>father, mother, daughter, son, brother, sister, whatever your role is,

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<v Riley Bowman>co-worker, or just some dude or dudette driving down the highway needing to respond to an accident.

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<v Riley Bowman>Whatever it is, of any kind. It could be not even just a medical accident,

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<v Riley Bowman>but any kind of incident, you wanna have the smarts, you wanna have the training,

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<v Riley Bowman>you wanna have the gear to take care of yourself and the people you care about

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<v Riley Bowman>most in whatever situation you find yourself in.

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<v Riley Bowman>And that's what the Guardian Conference is really all about is to give you those tools.

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<v Riley Bowman>Low light training, that's another one you'll have an opportunity to do.

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<v Riley Bowman>So guys, come join us at the 2026 Guardian Conference in Oklahoma City this

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<v Riley Bowman>year, September 18th to the 20th.

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<v Riley Bowman>And you can go to guardianconference.com. You'll see the full lineup of instructors

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<v Riley Bowman>that will be there this year.

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<v Riley Bowman>You'll see information about the conference. We try to make it as easy as possible

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<v Riley Bowman>to know what to expect. There's some great videos you can watch on there that

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<v Riley Bowman>kind of explain it if you've never been before.

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<v Riley Bowman>And you can see behind the scenes a little bit.

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<v Riley Bowman>And, you know, tickets, actually the best way to save is to become a Guardian

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<v Riley Bowman>Nation member. you'll save well beyond the cost of a monthly membership just

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<v Riley Bowman>by the discount you'll get off the tuition at Guardian Conference.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Now, I highly recommend the Guardian Conference. I have been multiple years.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>I didn't go this last year, but the amount of experience that's going to be there is fantastic.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Not only that, but it is a chance to

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<v Brian McLaughlin>learn from a big group of highly

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<v Brian McLaughlin>experienced instructors all at once and

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<v Brian McLaughlin>it's like camp i think it's like summer camp for

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<v Brian McLaughlin>adults you get to hang out with all your friends and see all your other people while

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<v Brian McLaughlin>you're out there and then do a lot of stuff a lot of fun

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<v Brian McLaughlin>things and the training is always stuff

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<v Brian McLaughlin>that you're not going to get at your local gun range you know you're going to

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<v Brian McLaughlin>have way different way cooler things like you could treat this as like your

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<v Brian McLaughlin>one yearly training block you know and pair that with your range time for practice

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<v Brian McLaughlin>and you can have a very solid base for hitting.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>All the wickets that come to defensive handgun.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So I think the, the event is fantastic. Highly recommend it.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>We're going to have, um, my, um, trauma class out there where I'm going to be

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<v Brian McLaughlin>teaching the concealed carry tactics for medical carry.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Um, and this, the last year that we did it, we had an event where, um, it was live fire.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So you had to engage targets while you're putting on tourniquets,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>um, while someone's hosing you down with blood.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Um, and, uh, it was, uh, it was a lot of fun. Everybody really enjoyed it.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>We're going to do a little upgrade this year and make it a little more realistic

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<v Brian McLaughlin>and add a couple of different elements that's going to make it a lot more fun

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<v Brian McLaughlin>and a lot more educational.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Because the basic concept here is we want to be able to do these types of things under pressure.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>We don't want to be doing it all for the first time when bullets are flying.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>We want to try to get that stress inoculation working a little bit more quickly,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>get you into an environment where it's controlled and safe, where you can start

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<v Brian McLaughlin>practicing these things in a very more intense environment so that when it push comes to shove,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>you can throw these skills out there without having to think about it too much. For sure.

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<v Riley Bowman>So come join us at Tactical Bandcamp.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Tactical Bandcamp.

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<v Riley Bowman>The 2026 Guardian Conference. It's a lot of fun. Go to guardianconference.com.

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<v Riley Bowman>Brian, let's get into, we've already kind of touched on some things already

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<v Riley Bowman>as it is, but let's get into the topic.

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<v Riley Bowman>Let's get it. You know, what are some of the more common mistakes that you see?

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<v Riley Bowman>Let's start with the gear, actually.

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<v Riley Bowman>Let's address the gear question. And we just talked about, you know,

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<v Riley Bowman>people getting some quality components and trauma kits and IFACs and gear from Mountain Medical.

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<v Riley Bowman>What are some of the more common mistakes you see people make with respect to their trauma gear?

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Tampons.

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<v Riley Bowman>Tampons, yes.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Don't be putting tampons in your trauma kits. Yeah.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Okay, guys, that's a dumb idea. I know your cousin is special forces in Nam,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>and he says that he does it, but it's not,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>a good idea.

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<v Riley Bowman>Do you think that uh i i

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<v Riley Bowman>do think that there were some legit instances of

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<v Riley Bowman>people in vietnam for instance you said you mentioned it may very well have

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<v Riley Bowman>used uh tampons uh in certain situations on the battlefield but do you suppose

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<v Riley Bowman>that we've learned a thing or two since 1969 versus you know g watt 2000 2009 things

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Are a little different now yeah science has progressed quite a bit you know

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<v Brian McLaughlin>we understand things a little bit differently,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>The main reason why is because we don't want to improvise when we don't have to, right?

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So tampons are purpose-built items for a particular purpose,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>and trauma is not that purpose.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>They don't absorb enough of the moisture for it to matter.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>They don't absorb enough blood for it to actually count, and you're not likely

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<v Brian McLaughlin>to get the mechanical advantage of compression on that artery.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>That's our main concept here, right? So our goal is to take wound packing material,

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<v Brian McLaughlin>long pieces of gauze, and we pack it down into the wound as tightly as possible.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>And then we take our pressure dressing.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>We wrap that around so that it provides that mechanical compression down on

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<v Brian McLaughlin>that artery, which is what clamps it off. That's what we're after here.

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<v Riley Bowman>Clamping and also to help clots start to form. Yes.

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<v Riley Bowman>Which is going to, like when you have a fire hose going, which is what an artery

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<v Riley Bowman>is doing, it's not going to allow clots to form.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Exactly. Yeah, that clot is going to act like a seal. It's going to plug up

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<v Brian McLaughlin>the end of that pipe and prevent extra bleeding and that kind of thing.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So exactly, that's exactly right.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So we have wound packing material that is designed for that.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>It's cheap. It's plentiful. It's easy to carry.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>So there's no reason to put tampons in your trauma kit when we already have

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<v Brian McLaughlin>awesome things that are work far better.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Now, if it came down to it and I don't have any wound packing material around

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<v Brian McLaughlin>me, but I got a whole case of tampons.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Am I going to use them? Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Riley Bowman>That's all you got.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Situation dictates. If I need to, I'll pack 20 of them into that wound and try

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<v Brian McLaughlin>to get compression that way.

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<v Riley Bowman>That might be how many you need because I don't remember exactly the ratio,

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<v Riley Bowman>but there was somebody, I think it might even have been Caleb Giddings.

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<v Riley Bowman>I might be remembering, misquoting, but I know a friend of mine,

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<v Riley Bowman>somebody in the industry several years ago did a video where they compared how

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<v Riley Bowman>much, like they basically took like cups of water or whatever, or liquid of some kind,

00:14:02.777 --> 00:14:09.837
<v Riley Bowman>And they were comparing how much liquid would a tampon absorb compared to just

00:14:09.837 --> 00:14:16.017
<v Riley Bowman>a standard pack of, you know, compressed gauze, right? Wound packing material.

00:14:16.417 --> 00:14:22.817
<v Riley Bowman>And it would shock you how much of a difference there is as far as like,

00:14:22.917 --> 00:14:27.237
<v Riley Bowman>it was like dip your compressed gauze in this cup of water here, pull it out.

00:14:27.457 --> 00:14:30.817
<v Riley Bowman>Dip your tampon over here, pull that out. and

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<v Riley Bowman>like this made like no difference in the

00:14:33.457 --> 00:14:36.577
<v Riley Bowman>level of the water in the cup whereas your compressed gauze

00:14:36.577 --> 00:14:39.377
<v Riley Bowman>you know soaked up a noticeable amount of

00:14:39.377 --> 00:14:44.637
<v Riley Bowman>that of that fluid um and so the point is like i know people like also think

00:14:44.637 --> 00:14:49.257
<v Riley Bowman>like a tampon is well it's it's cylindrical in shape it's about like a bullet

00:14:49.257 --> 00:14:53.937
<v Riley Bowman>hole you know we'll just stuff it in there that's just not how these things

00:14:53.937 --> 00:14:59.237
<v Riley Bowman>work You don't just have a bullet hole and then just fill the hole with,

00:14:59.457 --> 00:15:03.697
<v Riley Bowman>even if it was gauze, you don't just fill the hole.

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<v Riley Bowman>Like what you're talking about, Brian, is really key for people to understand

00:15:06.637 --> 00:15:13.537
<v Riley Bowman>is ideally we want to get that gauze or whatever the wound packing material is.

00:15:13.657 --> 00:15:17.457
<v Riley Bowman>I mean, it could be hemostatic gauze. We want to get that down as close as we

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<v Riley Bowman>can to the actual bleed itself,

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<v Riley Bowman>Get pressure directly on that if we can, and start packing, packing,

00:15:25.857 --> 00:15:28.937
<v Riley Bowman>packing, packing, packing, packing, packing, packing, you know,

00:15:28.997 --> 00:15:35.017
<v Riley Bowman>to get that absorbent material, not only, it's not just about absorbing, but it's absorbing.

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<v Riley Bowman>Compressing, allowing clots start to form, et cetera. Okay.

00:15:40.249 --> 00:15:42.889
<v Riley Bowman>And then of course, you know, if one, we've done as much as we can,

00:15:43.029 --> 00:15:46.309
<v Riley Bowman>we're going to use a compression bandage, wrap that all up, seal it up,

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<v Riley Bowman>get a little more compression on there.

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<v Riley Bowman>Hopefully, you know, I mean that we do what we can, but a tampon just doesn't cut it out.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Right. Yeah. Our goal is the compression. So that means that if we are,

00:15:56.789 --> 00:16:02.229
<v Brian McLaughlin>um, if we are absorbing any extra blood, that means we're not getting good compression on that artery.

00:16:02.469 --> 00:16:07.289
<v Brian McLaughlin>So our goal is not absorption of blood. We, we don't want to be absorbing any blood.

00:16:07.469 --> 00:16:11.229
<v Brian McLaughlin>We want that blood to stay in the body where it's transporting oxygen where it needs to be.

00:16:11.589 --> 00:16:14.229
<v Brian McLaughlin>So, yeah. So that's one of those key components.

00:16:14.869 --> 00:16:21.689
<v Brian McLaughlin>A good medic knows how to improvise when they need to, but he also knows you

00:16:21.689 --> 00:16:23.749
<v Brian McLaughlin>don't improvise unless you have to.

00:16:24.049 --> 00:16:27.389
<v Brian McLaughlin>So make sure that you've got the products on hand. Don't be improvising.

00:16:27.609 --> 00:16:29.309
<v Brian McLaughlin>If push comes to shove, sure.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Grab a t-shirt, pack that down into the wound if you need to,

00:16:32.169 --> 00:16:36.009
<v Brian McLaughlin>you know, whatever the case is, but don't improvise unless you have to.

00:16:37.643 --> 00:16:40.383
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah, and there's additional risks that come from improvising.

00:16:40.503 --> 00:16:41.403
<v Riley Bowman>Like you just mentioned a t-shirt.

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<v Riley Bowman>That's not very sterile. But, I mean, if it's the last thing I had,

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<v Riley Bowman>like, okay, better alive than dead. Yeah.

00:16:49.983 --> 00:16:51.303
<v Brian McLaughlin>I'd rather them have an.

00:16:51.303 --> 00:16:54.783
<v Riley Bowman>Infection of some kind than be dead. We'll throw some antibioxia.

00:16:54.883 --> 00:16:55.803
<v Brian McLaughlin>At least they're alive.

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<v Riley Bowman>Right?

00:16:57.083 --> 00:16:59.143
<v Brian McLaughlin>That's beyond my pay grade. That's not my worries.

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<v Riley Bowman>So, all right. Tampons. Yeah, we've ruled that out, I hope.

00:17:03.923 --> 00:17:09.823
<v Riley Bowman>Uh i i see that proliferated on the interwebs less frequently now than i did

00:17:09.823 --> 00:17:15.043
<v Riley Bowman>five years ten years ago for sure um i know it's still out there as being like

00:17:15.043 --> 00:17:19.323
<v Riley Bowman>a thing that people some you know people still think is viable but hopefully

00:17:19.323 --> 00:17:23.243
<v Riley Bowman>we continue to get that one behind us words

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Getting out people are starting to hear that you know yeah they're starting

00:17:26.123 --> 00:17:30.263
<v Brian McLaughlin>to say a lot of this stuff is uh um you know you're 10 years ago this a lot

00:17:30.263 --> 00:17:33.503
<v Brian McLaughlin>of these concepts were totally foreign to people But I run into people a lot

00:17:33.503 --> 00:17:36.403
<v Brian McLaughlin>more who are better educated, who are, you know, they know their stuff when

00:17:36.403 --> 00:17:37.683
<v Brian McLaughlin>it comes to, you know, bleeding control stuff.

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<v Riley Bowman>Yeah. All right. What's another gear mistake?

00:17:43.163 --> 00:17:46.983
<v Brian McLaughlin>Another gear mistake is not having the gear.

00:17:48.743 --> 00:17:53.063
<v Brian McLaughlin>There is not a lot that you can do if you don't have the proper gear.

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<v Brian McLaughlin>Now, the most important thing that you can possibly learn for all of bleeding

00:17:58.643 --> 00:18:03.003
<v Brian McLaughlin>control is direct pressure. If you have no medical kit whatsoever,

00:18:03.003 --> 00:18:05.743
<v Brian McLaughlin>a lot of lives have been saved with just direct pressure.

00:18:05.923 --> 00:18:09.703
<v Brian McLaughlin>Direct pressure means pressure directly on top of the wound.

00:18:09.823 --> 00:18:11.203
<v Brian McLaughlin>I like to use the heel of my hand.

00:18:11.761 --> 00:18:13.101
<v Riley Bowman>What about an elbow?

00:18:13.481 --> 00:18:16.841
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yep. And a lot of like you're about to do chest compressions on somebody,

00:18:17.001 --> 00:18:21.261
<v Brian McLaughlin>get your weight on top of them so that you get as much pressure down onto that

00:18:21.261 --> 00:18:22.761
<v Brian McLaughlin>wound. And does that hurt the patient?

00:18:22.921 --> 00:18:25.261
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yes. Will they complain about it? Absolutely.

00:18:25.581 --> 00:18:31.361
<v Brian McLaughlin>But it's going to save their lives too. So having a brief understanding about

00:18:31.361 --> 00:18:33.961
<v Brian McLaughlin>how to do direct pressure is very important.

00:18:34.121 --> 00:18:39.781
<v Brian McLaughlin>And then having a trauma kit nearby that can help you is going to be even more

00:18:39.781 --> 00:18:41.501
<v Brian McLaughlin>important. It's not going to do you any good.

00:18:41.761 --> 00:18:46.041
<v Brian McLaughlin>If you don't have the materials on you, I know one of the things that we get

00:18:46.041 --> 00:18:49.381
<v Brian McLaughlin>told pretty often here at Mount Man Medical is that people are using our trauma

00:18:49.381 --> 00:18:55.681
<v Brian McLaughlin>kits and the citizen will be the one that responds to the vehicle crash.

00:18:55.961 --> 00:18:59.881
<v Brian McLaughlin>And then the EMTs or paramedics who are off duty, maybe a nurse or a doctor

00:18:59.881 --> 00:19:03.841
<v Brian McLaughlin>might be passing. They stop to help. They don't even have their own trauma kit.

00:19:04.101 --> 00:19:06.921
<v Brian McLaughlin>And so the citizen will be, hey, I got equipment for you.

00:19:07.341 --> 00:19:12.441
<v Brian McLaughlin>Here's everything you need to take care of this person. And that's a huge benefit

00:19:12.441 --> 00:19:14.841
<v Brian McLaughlin>all in itself. Just having that in your vehicle.

00:19:15.201 --> 00:19:19.461
<v Brian McLaughlin>I like to treat my vehicle like it's my own little staging COC.

00:19:19.661 --> 00:19:23.261
<v Brian McLaughlin>I've got everything in it. If I get back to my car, my truck,

00:19:23.461 --> 00:19:27.541
<v Brian McLaughlin>I know I've got everything in it to take care of more people and take care of

00:19:27.541 --> 00:19:28.481
<v Brian McLaughlin>whatever kind of situation.

00:19:28.701 --> 00:19:33.101
<v Brian McLaughlin>So having something like that underneath of the passenger seat in your vehicle,

00:19:33.481 --> 00:19:35.081
<v Brian McLaughlin>kind of like one of those vital things.

00:19:35.241 --> 00:19:39.301
<v Brian McLaughlin>So having have some equipment near you, then know how to use it.

00:19:39.481 --> 00:19:44.961
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. You can check out YouTube on all that, the tons of videos on how to apply

00:19:44.961 --> 00:19:47.581
<v Brian McLaughlin>tourniquets and chest seals and all that kind of stuff.

00:19:47.721 --> 00:19:52.661
<v Riley Bowman>I've got in my center console a small, just a basic IFAC.

00:19:53.161 --> 00:19:56.241
<v Riley Bowman>But it's right there because it's like, oh, I need something right now.

00:19:56.481 --> 00:20:00.741
<v Riley Bowman>Open up center console, grab, go. And the back of the vehicle is something more

00:20:00.741 --> 00:20:09.841
<v Riley Bowman>comprehensive, a larger kit that's got more, including more serious perhaps items as well. it.

00:20:10.573 --> 00:20:15.613
<v Riley Bowman>I'm glad you mentioned the concept of, you know, a citizen responding on the

00:20:15.613 --> 00:20:20.773
<v Riley Bowman>scene of an accident, let's say, and paramedics, EMTs, firefighters,

00:20:21.113 --> 00:20:23.193
<v Riley Bowman>whomever responding as well or stopping.

00:20:23.573 --> 00:20:27.113
<v Riley Bowman>And they're like, hey, I'm here to help. And they certainly have the knowledge

00:20:27.113 --> 00:20:29.113
<v Riley Bowman>or the skills to help. They don't have the kit.

00:20:29.633 --> 00:20:33.953
<v Riley Bowman>That exact scenario happened to me a couple years ago.

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<v Riley Bowman>You know the story. I'm sure I'll refresh your memory.

00:20:37.113 --> 00:20:40.153
<v Riley Bowman>But I was in Alabama had just traveled there to

00:20:40.153 --> 00:20:43.273
<v Riley Bowman>teach a two-day pistol class was going

00:20:43.273 --> 00:20:46.613
<v Riley Bowman>to scope out the range the day before so this is like 4

00:20:46.613 --> 00:20:50.173
<v Riley Bowman>30 p.m on a Friday and me

00:20:50.173 --> 00:20:52.933
<v Riley Bowman>and my my friend Chris Chris Bean some of you probably

00:20:52.933 --> 00:20:56.753
<v Riley Bowman>know Chris were driving together and we

00:20:56.753 --> 00:20:59.513
<v Riley Bowman>witnessed an accident happen right you know just

00:20:59.513 --> 00:21:02.593
<v Riley Bowman>a few cars in front of us at an intersection older lady

00:21:02.593 --> 00:21:05.833
<v Riley Bowman>in a pickup was basically t-boned

00:21:05.833 --> 00:21:09.213
<v Riley Bowman>she she was it's her fault she turned across traffic

00:21:09.213 --> 00:21:17.613
<v Riley Bowman>just not enough time for the car that hit her to react in time I ran up there

00:21:17.613 --> 00:21:23.993
<v Riley Bowman>grabbed a kit was ready and willing and able to I think you know help with that

00:21:23.993 --> 00:21:28.973
<v Riley Bowman>just fine but a off-duty I think it was a firefighter EMT

00:21:31.153 --> 00:21:35.293
<v Riley Bowman>Also came running over. I had the kit ready to go.

00:21:35.673 --> 00:21:39.533
<v Riley Bowman>And he's like, I'm an off-duty firefighter EMT. I'm like, cool.

00:21:39.833 --> 00:21:45.253
<v Riley Bowman>I'm like, I'm trained, but you take the lead. This is your thing, man. I've got a kit.

00:21:45.433 --> 00:21:48.193
<v Riley Bowman>He's like, awesome. I don't, right?

00:21:48.393 --> 00:21:55.233
<v Riley Bowman>So this exact scenario played out right there. And so at that point, I checked on the...

00:21:57.151 --> 00:22:01.011
<v Riley Bowman>The other occupant, uh, in the other vehicle. And he was okay.

00:22:01.331 --> 00:22:04.591
<v Riley Bowman>Uh, at least, you know, enough that I was like, I'll come back here.

00:22:04.691 --> 00:22:07.411
<v Riley Bowman>You know, there's nothing, you know, majorly traumatic, at least obvious.

00:22:07.751 --> 00:22:12.091
<v Riley Bowman>I go back over to the pickup and, uh, I just tell the firefighter,

00:22:12.171 --> 00:22:14.291
<v Riley Bowman>I'm like, Hey bro, just, you know, here's the kit.

00:22:14.451 --> 00:22:16.991
<v Riley Bowman>I'm like, just tell me what you need. He's like, uh, you know,

00:22:17.131 --> 00:22:20.731
<v Riley Bowman>you have, you have gloves. I'm like, yes. In fact, I have two pairs.

00:22:21.391 --> 00:22:25.111
<v Riley Bowman>Right. Why? Because every one One of our kits we sell has at least two pairs.

00:22:25.751 --> 00:22:30.031
<v Riley Bowman>Why? Because of situations like this. And also because it sometimes happens,

00:22:30.071 --> 00:22:32.071
<v Riley Bowman>especially in the heat and the stress of a moment.

00:22:32.151 --> 00:22:37.011
<v Riley Bowman>You go to put on a pair of nitrile gloves and you tear a hole or something in them, right?

00:22:37.171 --> 00:22:39.851
<v Riley Bowman>So we want to make sure you have at least a backup pair, right?

00:22:42.131 --> 00:22:45.771
<v Riley Bowman>So yeah, I'm like, yeah, gloves. Here you go, dude. He puts his gloves on, right?

00:22:46.251 --> 00:22:50.751
<v Riley Bowman>And actually, all we ended up really using was a compression bandage on this

00:22:50.751 --> 00:22:55.631
<v Riley Bowman>lady. She had a pretty good wound on her head where she struck the side of the

00:22:55.631 --> 00:22:58.191
<v Riley Bowman>window of the truck she was driving.

00:22:58.731 --> 00:23:01.931
<v Riley Bowman>Everything else looked okay. I think she had a broken arm or elbow or something

00:23:01.931 --> 00:23:05.551
<v Riley Bowman>here on the arm, but no lacerations. But up here, she was bleeding pretty good.

00:23:05.711 --> 00:23:07.771
<v Riley Bowman>We just took a compression bandage, wrapped it around her head,

00:23:08.031 --> 00:23:12.111
<v Riley Bowman>got her all dressed up, kept it so it stopped pouring down the side of her face.

00:23:12.871 --> 00:23:16.911
<v Riley Bowman>And she was going to definitely be evaluated for a concussion or something to

00:23:16.911 --> 00:23:21.931
<v Riley Bowman>that effect. But we did what needed to be done. And fire truck and an ambulance

00:23:21.931 --> 00:23:23.891
<v Riley Bowman>responded and the way we went.

00:23:24.091 --> 00:23:30.311
<v Riley Bowman>So anyway, along with your answer, Brian, of the second kind of major mistake

00:23:30.311 --> 00:23:33.171
<v Riley Bowman>with gear is that people don't have it with them.

00:23:34.751 --> 00:23:39.191
<v Riley Bowman>They just don't have the gear, right? I would add to that, and we've just addressed

00:23:39.191 --> 00:23:44.131
<v Riley Bowman>it, is that the other mistake there is people thinking, well,

00:23:44.151 --> 00:23:48.851
<v Riley Bowman>I'm not particularly well trained. Therefore, I probably shouldn't have a trauma kit.

00:23:49.833 --> 00:23:54.693
<v Riley Bowman>Right. And I would say, and I'll let you expound upon this if you'd like to

00:23:54.693 --> 00:23:58.073
<v Riley Bowman>as well, that, hey, even if here's what I would say,

00:23:58.313 --> 00:24:02.613
<v Riley Bowman>even if you have zero training, which, by the way, it doesn't take a whole lot,

00:24:02.713 --> 00:24:06.773
<v Riley Bowman>you can go get a stop to bleed class a few hours, and you'll learn a lot.

00:24:07.233 --> 00:24:09.013
<v Riley Bowman>But even if you have zero training.

00:24:10.142 --> 00:24:15.142
<v Riley Bowman>If you have a trauma kit with you, like this one right over here hanging behind me here on the screen,

00:24:15.442 --> 00:24:19.782
<v Riley Bowman>okay, if you've got that with you and you're like, I know nothing to do with

00:24:19.782 --> 00:24:24.562
<v Riley Bowman>this, there's a good chance somebody responding to the scene of that same accident

00:24:24.562 --> 00:24:27.282
<v Riley Bowman>will have at least some knowledge of some kind.

00:24:27.282 --> 00:24:30.822
<v Riley Bowman>And they'll find that useful. And they probably don't have one themselves.

00:24:31.122 --> 00:24:33.422
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah. So have a kit. Yep.

00:24:33.682 --> 00:24:39.282
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. And all of the stuff that's in these kits are very, very basic, very easy to use items.

00:24:40.302 --> 00:24:43.062
<v Brian McLaughlin>They're considered to be something that anybody can use so

00:24:43.062 --> 00:24:46.342
<v Brian McLaughlin>you're not going to get into trouble for using them on somebody you

00:24:46.342 --> 00:24:49.582
<v Brian McLaughlin>know it's not like you're doing a crike on

00:24:49.582 --> 00:24:52.422
<v Brian McLaughlin>somebody right that would be a very invasive procedure that you

00:24:52.422 --> 00:24:55.842
<v Brian McLaughlin>would need a lot of credentialing and training in order to do whereas

00:24:55.842 --> 00:24:58.822
<v Brian McLaughlin>these types of things that doesn't require nearly as

00:24:58.822 --> 00:25:01.782
<v Brian McLaughlin>much training there's a lot of online material at

00:25:01.782 --> 00:25:05.342
<v Brian McLaughlin>mount man medical we've got our online class yep which

00:25:05.342 --> 00:25:08.262
<v Brian McLaughlin>is a it'll walk you through how to use every single

00:25:08.262 --> 00:25:11.782
<v Brian McLaughlin>one of these items we're working on doing another one of those we're

00:25:11.782 --> 00:25:14.762
<v Brian McLaughlin>going to do an upgraded version of that class at some point

00:25:14.762 --> 00:25:17.562
<v Brian McLaughlin>yeah but that's an easy way for you

00:25:17.562 --> 00:25:20.602
<v Brian McLaughlin>to like walk through all of the items that are in and that's

00:25:20.602 --> 00:25:23.882
<v Brian McLaughlin>the type of thing no matter what situation

00:25:23.882 --> 00:25:28.982
<v Brian McLaughlin>that you're in medical is going to be an issue so if you are preparing for any

00:25:28.982 --> 00:25:34.122
<v Brian McLaughlin>kind of a catastrophe you know defensive pistol is a you know catastrophe of

00:25:34.122 --> 00:25:38.882
<v Brian McLaughlin>some kind in my mind at least an emergency you're probably going to need emergency

00:25:38.882 --> 00:25:43.042
<v Brian McLaughlin>medical to deal with it so that's a very important training and gear i.

00:25:43.042 --> 00:25:47.022
<v Riley Bowman>Wish i had uh the attitude and the training that i have now

00:25:47.802 --> 00:25:54.942
<v Riley Bowman>20 30 years ago uh 20 20 plus let's see 25 years ago i was a young construction

00:25:54.942 --> 00:26:01.102
<v Riley Bowman>worker on a construction site and i watched a young laborer um trying to open

00:26:01.102 --> 00:26:06.182
<v Riley Bowman>up a package of some kind of construction material and he, with a utility knife,

00:26:07.198 --> 00:26:13.118
<v Riley Bowman>Slices right down through the materials trying to cut and open up a laceration on his thigh

00:26:13.978 --> 00:26:17.038
<v Riley Bowman>that was you know probably good six seven inches

00:26:17.038 --> 00:26:20.318
<v Riley Bowman>long and the depth of that blade

00:26:20.318 --> 00:26:26.058
<v Riley Bowman>and you know at that time it was oh crap you know wrap that with something quick

00:26:26.058 --> 00:26:29.378
<v Riley Bowman>get him in the truck get him to the hospital kind of thing unfortunately he

00:26:29.378 --> 00:26:33.058
<v Riley Bowman>didn't you know manage to hit his femoral or anything like that but he could

00:26:33.058 --> 00:26:37.578
<v Riley Bowman>have right and that would have been really bad and we would have been very poorly prepared for that.

00:26:38.298 --> 00:26:43.058
<v Riley Bowman>But, you know, just having some basic understanding of medical,

00:26:43.058 --> 00:26:47.098
<v Riley Bowman>you know, principles, if you will, like you just said, Brian,

00:26:47.638 --> 00:26:50.158
<v Riley Bowman>direct pressure is really, really key.

00:26:50.478 --> 00:26:54.038
<v Riley Bowman>Like even if you don't have a tourniquet, it's amazing what you can do with

00:26:54.038 --> 00:26:58.258
<v Riley Bowman>direct pressure on a wound or on an artery that's supplying that wound.

00:26:58.398 --> 00:27:01.998
<v Riley Bowman>Like if you know where those are, if you can get pressure right down in here

00:27:01.998 --> 00:27:03.738
<v Riley Bowman>in the inguinal crease area,

00:27:03.878 --> 00:27:08.238
<v Riley Bowman>right against that femoral right i mean stick your elbow in there if you have

00:27:08.238 --> 00:27:12.498
<v Riley Bowman>to the person's not gonna like it nope but what's the alternative you know keep

00:27:12.498 --> 00:27:19.318
<v Riley Bowman>blood in them or or or out of them right and so um anyway um yeah just wish

00:27:19.318 --> 00:27:21.678
<v Riley Bowman>i had the understanding then that i that i do now

00:27:22.511 --> 00:27:26.151
<v Riley Bowman>Hey, so we've got Renato checking in on Facebook. Hey, guys,

00:27:26.391 --> 00:27:27.311
<v Riley Bowman>thank you for checking in.

00:27:27.391 --> 00:27:31.791
<v Riley Bowman>And also a nice comment here from Brian on YouTube.

00:27:32.051 --> 00:27:36.071
<v Riley Bowman>He says, I was born in 53 into a military family and lived through the Vietnam era.

00:27:36.291 --> 00:27:40.531
<v Riley Bowman>I came of age and went through the draft lottery at the start of the drawdown

00:27:40.531 --> 00:27:42.811
<v Riley Bowman>stage, but my brother and sister went.

00:27:43.091 --> 00:27:46.051
<v Riley Bowman>Anyway, thank you, Brian, very much. Thank you for being here,

00:27:46.191 --> 00:27:51.851
<v Riley Bowman>and thank you for your own willingness and your family's willingness to serve

00:27:51.851 --> 00:27:54.631
<v Riley Bowman>and to actually serve our nation.

00:27:55.011 --> 00:28:00.911
<v Riley Bowman>Of course, Brian here with me is a veteran as well, and the things we're talking

00:28:00.911 --> 00:28:01.951
<v Riley Bowman>about. I guess you don't know, Brian.

00:28:02.191 --> 00:28:07.611
<v Riley Bowman>I assume we did this podcast, and I assume people know, but maybe they're new to the podcast.

00:28:08.291 --> 00:28:14.071
<v Riley Bowman>Brian has spent time overseas, specifically in Afghanistan. I know you spent

00:28:14.071 --> 00:28:21.871
<v Riley Bowman>some time patching up people over there, Marines, as well as civilians, Afghani civilians.

00:28:22.551 --> 00:28:22.711
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah.

00:28:23.191 --> 00:28:23.651
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah.

00:28:24.071 --> 00:28:27.711
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yep. Spent some time over there. Did some combat trauma management,

00:28:28.171 --> 00:28:30.351
<v Brian McLaughlin>some field medicine, and some hospital medicine.

00:28:30.551 --> 00:28:34.251
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. Did a lot of like ER work and EMT and all that kind of stuff.

00:28:34.671 --> 00:28:38.431
<v Brian McLaughlin>And then since I've been out, been going back to school for all sorts of medical

00:28:38.431 --> 00:28:42.491
<v Brian McLaughlin>things and been enjoying that. And the process has been fun. Yeah.

00:28:44.063 --> 00:28:49.143
<v Riley Bowman>All right. Any other gear-related mistakes you'd like to talk about?

00:28:49.363 --> 00:28:54.323
<v Brian McLaughlin>Gear-related mistakes. Not being trained with the things that are in your gear.

00:28:54.523 --> 00:28:57.523
<v Brian McLaughlin>I know you guys are going to hear a lot of the same reoccurring.

00:28:57.603 --> 00:29:00.243
<v Riley Bowman>Which I'm going to put the brakes on just a little bit because that's kind of

00:29:00.243 --> 00:29:04.203
<v Riley Bowman>like contrasting what we just covered, which was, hey, even if you don't have

00:29:04.203 --> 00:29:05.623
<v Riley Bowman>any training, have a kit.

00:29:05.623 --> 00:29:11.623
<v Riley Bowman>But I think where you're going is, okay, maybe understand what you do and don't

00:29:11.623 --> 00:29:16.603
<v Riley Bowman>know, especially as it relates to stuff in your kit, so that you're not trying

00:29:16.603 --> 00:29:19.163
<v Riley Bowman>to use things that you don't know how to use.

00:29:19.583 --> 00:29:24.183
<v Riley Bowman>I spoke to the virtues of have a kit in case somebody else on scene needs that

00:29:24.183 --> 00:29:26.483
<v Riley Bowman>kit. Now let's hear what you have to say about…

00:29:27.211 --> 00:29:32.071
<v Riley Bowman>you know, having things in your kit or maybe trying to use things that you don't understand.

00:29:32.271 --> 00:29:36.151
<v Brian McLaughlin>Right. Well, so a lot of all of these things, a lot of times people think it's

00:29:36.151 --> 00:29:37.071
<v Brian McLaughlin>very, very, very simple.

00:29:37.211 --> 00:29:39.751
<v Brian McLaughlin>So you've got two different categories of people. You got one who's like,

00:29:39.851 --> 00:29:41.391
<v Brian McLaughlin>wow, this is so complex and intense.

00:29:41.611 --> 00:29:46.071
<v Brian McLaughlin>I don't want to approach it because of how big it seems. It's overwhelming.

00:29:46.911 --> 00:29:52.491
<v Brian McLaughlin>So that's why, you know, very simple videos are fantastic for learning a lot

00:29:52.491 --> 00:29:55.431
<v Brian McLaughlin>of these things in a very low intensity environment.

00:29:55.431 --> 00:29:59.771
<v Brian McLaughlin>You just hang out in your living room and practice this stuff on your family

00:29:59.771 --> 00:30:02.671
<v Brian McLaughlin>members kind of a thing. Very low impact and very easy.

00:30:02.791 --> 00:30:04.691
<v Brian McLaughlin>And then you have the other category of people who are like,

00:30:04.791 --> 00:30:09.411
<v Brian McLaughlin>oh, this is so simple. I don't need to learn how to use every single one of the items.

00:30:09.971 --> 00:30:15.251
<v Brian McLaughlin>The training aspect is important because you need to know specifically how to

00:30:15.251 --> 00:30:18.871
<v Brian McLaughlin>use the tourniquet so it's as effective as possible.

00:30:19.371 --> 00:30:23.331
<v Brian McLaughlin>We don't have a lot of time and that person might not have a lot of blood in them.

00:30:23.551 --> 00:30:27.371
<v Brian McLaughlin>So knowing how to use that tourniquet in the best possible way,

00:30:27.371 --> 00:30:30.951
<v Brian McLaughlin>it's going to be essential for minimizing that impact to the patient.

00:30:31.291 --> 00:30:36.111
<v Brian McLaughlin>So the more you learn those key little details for how to use each one of those

00:30:36.111 --> 00:30:38.891
<v Brian McLaughlin>items in your trauma kit, the more effective you're going to be.

00:30:39.431 --> 00:30:42.171
<v Brian McLaughlin>I know a lot of people who will buy the trauma kit. They're like,

00:30:42.271 --> 00:30:44.731
<v Brian McLaughlin>oh, good. You know, I'll buy it. It's like a fire extinguisher, right?

00:30:45.031 --> 00:30:47.891
<v Brian McLaughlin>It's not like a fire extinguisher, right? Fire extinguisher is a little more simple.

00:30:47.971 --> 00:30:50.631
<v Brian McLaughlin>They got the directions like on it if you know if you know how to

00:30:50.631 --> 00:30:53.371
<v Brian McLaughlin>read it as long as you pay attention you follow that no

00:30:53.371 --> 00:30:56.511
<v Brian McLaughlin>big deal same as like an aed tourniquets and

00:30:56.511 --> 00:30:59.331
<v Brian McLaughlin>pressure dressings and chest seals are a little bit different

00:30:59.331 --> 00:31:03.651
<v Brian McLaughlin>you need to know some technique for each one kind of know the process of why

00:31:03.651 --> 00:31:07.071
<v Brian McLaughlin>we're doing things so that you can do it a little more efficiently so getting

00:31:07.071 --> 00:31:12.111
<v Brian McLaughlin>yourself that education is going to be an essential part of that equipment so

00:31:12.111 --> 00:31:17.271
<v Brian McLaughlin>don't forget you know buy the kit good but also get the training on each one of the little things.

00:31:17.471 --> 00:31:17.831
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah.

00:31:18.677 --> 00:31:22.557
<v Riley Bowman>Um, yeah, for sure. For sure. I was thinking along with that,

00:31:22.617 --> 00:31:26.077
<v Riley Bowman>I'm going to throw at you another kind of gear related mistake and it's,

00:31:26.077 --> 00:31:32.197
<v Riley Bowman>it's related and that's why I'm bringing it up would be, you know, thinking you need, uh,

00:31:32.897 --> 00:31:34.737
<v Riley Bowman>what I would call high speed gear.

00:31:35.277 --> 00:31:37.537
<v Riley Bowman>And what I mean by that is like stuff like.

00:31:38.302 --> 00:31:42.122
<v Riley Bowman>You know, a chest decompression needle or, you know, that kind of thing.

00:31:42.122 --> 00:31:44.542
<v Riley Bowman>Or a crike. Yeah, you know, right, a crike kit.

00:31:44.982 --> 00:31:49.842
<v Riley Bowman>Like, so, I mean, what are your thoughts on that? I mean, because I've seen that attitude before.

00:31:50.542 --> 00:31:55.082
<v Riley Bowman>We've even fielded questions from people that have wanted to buy, you know, stuff from us.

00:31:55.222 --> 00:31:58.342
<v Riley Bowman>They're like, yeah, you know, I just really feel like I need a crike kit or,

00:31:58.622 --> 00:32:05.702
<v Riley Bowman>you know, something to be able to do a, you know, decompression thoracostomy or whatever, right?

00:32:05.702 --> 00:32:12.942
<v Riley Bowman>Like so uh what do you think about that kind of stuff i mean as far as gear

00:32:12.942 --> 00:32:16.742
<v Riley Bowman>like do we need all those kinds of things in our kit or what do we really need in our

00:32:16.742 --> 00:32:20.182
<v Brian McLaughlin>Kits yeah what do we really need in our kits are what's in the mountain man

00:32:20.182 --> 00:32:25.082
<v Brian McLaughlin>medical kits those are that's what you really need i did a lot of effort you

00:32:25.082 --> 00:32:28.442
<v Brian McLaughlin>know to go through pick out all the best items brian designed the kits they're

00:32:28.442 --> 00:32:34.022
<v Brian McLaughlin>all yeah they're they're pretty flawless when it comes to uh purpose and philosophy Yeah.

00:32:34.202 --> 00:32:39.462
<v Brian McLaughlin>But when it comes to those higher speed things, you know, everybody likes the cooler stuff, you know.

00:32:40.222 --> 00:32:44.322
<v Brian McLaughlin>And so gear is not always the end all be all. You got to, you know,

00:32:44.362 --> 00:32:45.982
<v Brian McLaughlin>there's a lot of other things that come in play.

00:32:46.682 --> 00:32:51.442
<v Brian McLaughlin>And a lot of it is making sure that you're not going outside of your scope of practice. Right.

00:32:51.642 --> 00:32:57.522
<v Brian McLaughlin>We get into the Good Samaritan's law here where you can get into trouble by

00:32:57.522 --> 00:33:01.622
<v Brian McLaughlin>helping somebody. you're opening yourself up to lawsuits because you're doing

00:33:01.622 --> 00:33:03.942
<v Brian McLaughlin>stuff that you are not credentialed to do.

00:33:04.042 --> 00:33:07.082
<v Brian McLaughlin>That's being outside of your scope of practice, right?

00:33:07.282 --> 00:33:11.762
<v Brian McLaughlin>So if you as a citizen are applying a tourniquet or doing wound packing,

00:33:12.022 --> 00:33:14.202
<v Brian McLaughlin>that is something that the U.S.

00:33:14.582 --> 00:33:18.842
<v Brian McLaughlin>Government, our justice system, recognizes that anyone can do to save somebody's

00:33:18.842 --> 00:33:20.522
<v Brian McLaughlin>life. So that is not an issue.

00:33:20.682 --> 00:33:28.662
<v Brian McLaughlin>What becomes an issue is when you start to do things like needle decompressions or crikes, right?

00:33:28.882 --> 00:33:31.762
<v Brian McLaughlin>So a crike would be cutting open someone's throat and putting in a tube so that

00:33:31.762 --> 00:33:33.322
<v Brian McLaughlin>they can breathe because they have facial trauma.

00:33:33.999 --> 00:33:37.179
<v Brian McLaughlin>So, um, by doing those types of things, you have to be credentialed.

00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.939
<v Brian McLaughlin>You got to get training on how to do it, or you can kill your patient or at

00:33:40.939 --> 00:33:43.939
<v Brian McLaughlin>the very least cause them great, serious bodily harm.

00:33:44.199 --> 00:33:47.099
<v Brian McLaughlin>Like we're trying to make the situation better, not worse. Right?

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.639
<v Brian McLaughlin>So you need to have the proper training. So if you start to do those types of

00:33:50.639 --> 00:33:54.719
<v Brian McLaughlin>things, even if you save their life, you're opening yourself up to a lot of

00:33:54.719 --> 00:33:55.999
<v Brian McLaughlin>problems when it comes to that.

00:33:56.139 --> 00:33:59.499
<v Brian McLaughlin>So make sure that you're not getting anything that is overly invasive.

00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.539
<v Brian McLaughlin>Um, the stuff that's in our trauma kits, anyone can use it. You're not going

00:34:03.539 --> 00:34:06.959
<v Brian McLaughlin>to get in trouble for putting on a tourniquet on somebody and they didn't actually need it.

00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Brian McLaughlin>So that's kind of where you're at with that.

00:34:10.459 --> 00:34:13.299
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah. Speaking of, and actually this, this isn't even a complete kit here.

00:34:13.359 --> 00:34:14.619
<v Riley Bowman>This is just hanging here for display.

00:34:15.399 --> 00:34:18.459
<v Riley Bowman>But I was just thinking, you know, let's just talk real quick about some,

00:34:18.459 --> 00:34:22.979
<v Riley Bowman>some things in our typical, like Yellowstone would be our most popular IFAC.

00:34:24.099 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Riley Bowman>But in there you have a tourniquet of some kind and you have the options.

00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:29.959
<v Riley Bowman>You've got a cat tourniquet.

00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Riley Bowman>You can have the Yellowstone outfitted with.

00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:37.579
<v Riley Bowman>You can have a soft T tourniquet or soft tourniquet, SOF tourniquet.

00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.899
<v Riley Bowman>You could have just a SWAT T tourniquet in there. Not my preference for,

00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:46.139
<v Riley Bowman>you know, if I got just one tourniquet, you know, I'd rather have like a cat,

00:34:46.319 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Riley Bowman>but you know, it's, it is one that can be used effectively, especially if you do it correctly.

00:34:52.359 --> 00:34:56.219
<v Riley Bowman>So you get one of those three tourniquets outfitted in your Yellowstone kit.

00:34:56.619 --> 00:35:00.259
<v Riley Bowman>You're going to have a compression bandage or pressure dressing of some kind.

00:35:00.819 --> 00:35:04.379
<v Riley Bowman>As you see in here, this has got a different brand one than our Bridger.

00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.899
<v Riley Bowman>Again, this is one of the reasons why we're so excited to have the Bridger because

00:35:07.899 --> 00:35:11.839
<v Riley Bowman>it's a lot more compact than this one I just pulled out of this kit here.

00:35:12.628 --> 00:35:15.168
<v Riley Bowman>Our Yellowstones also have hemostatic

00:35:15.168 --> 00:35:20.028
<v Riley Bowman>gauze, chyto gauze specifically is what's specced for these now.

00:35:20.528 --> 00:35:26.968
<v Riley Bowman>So that's good to have because it's for wound packing, but it's also got hemostatic agent in it.

00:35:27.068 --> 00:35:31.848
<v Riley Bowman>That's going to help even more effectively form those clots that we need.

00:35:32.248 --> 00:35:36.728
<v Riley Bowman>We've got an elastic bandage, which in addition to things like the pressure

00:35:36.728 --> 00:35:41.528
<v Riley Bowman>dressing, You know, this can be used very well to apply some compression and

00:35:41.528 --> 00:35:44.368
<v Riley Bowman>wrap around a bandage that's already been applied.

00:35:44.628 --> 00:35:47.928
<v Riley Bowman>We've got some additional wound packing. This is gauze right here,

00:35:48.008 --> 00:35:50.508
<v Riley Bowman>compressed gauze. So that's a part of this as well.

00:35:50.628 --> 00:35:53.608
<v Riley Bowman>And you can see how some of these things can be paired. You've got a pressure

00:35:53.608 --> 00:35:55.608
<v Riley Bowman>dressing. I just pulled out the compression bandage.

00:35:55.948 --> 00:36:01.388
<v Riley Bowman>If you needed another, you know, bandage of some kind and you use this other

00:36:01.388 --> 00:36:05.368
<v Riley Bowman>compression bandage, You could pack somebody's wound or wrap it with this gauze

00:36:05.368 --> 00:36:08.048
<v Riley Bowman>here and then follow that up with this elastic bandage.

00:36:08.908 --> 00:36:15.188
<v Riley Bowman>There's going to be some chest seals in here as well, which is good for penetrating chest trauma.

00:36:15.688 --> 00:36:18.208
<v Riley Bowman>And, of course, we've got shears because you've got to get, you know,

00:36:18.388 --> 00:36:22.448
<v Riley Bowman>if you need to work on somebody, you'd rather not have clothes and things in the way.

00:36:22.588 --> 00:36:26.188
<v Riley Bowman>The two pairs of gloves I mentioned, they're right there ready to go.

00:36:26.328 --> 00:36:28.728
<v Riley Bowman>And you've got a little marker in case you need to make notes,

00:36:28.968 --> 00:36:33.828
<v Riley Bowman>write things down. might make note of the time a tourniquet was applied, those kinds of things.

00:36:34.108 --> 00:36:36.888
<v Riley Bowman>I think that's everything that's in our standard Yellowstone kit.

00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:41.020
<v Riley Bowman>Um, but that's, that's the sort of thing we're talking about here.

00:36:41.040 --> 00:36:46.620
<v Riley Bowman>So you get an idea of what's in a typical IFAC, especially like one that,

00:36:46.680 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Riley Bowman>uh, Brian here has, uh, spec'd, spec'd out. Yep.

00:36:50.600 --> 00:36:54.600
<v Brian McLaughlin>All the key components, everything you need to keep blood in somebody's body.

00:36:55.060 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Brian McLaughlin>So I handle quite a few different, uh, things and then extra,

00:36:59.220 --> 00:37:02.740
<v Brian McLaughlin>uh, extra room for you to put in your extra things.

00:37:03.160 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Brian McLaughlin>I always love band-aids cause that's the thing that gets used the most.

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.940
<v Brian McLaughlin>Lots and lots of band-aids for my boys yep.

00:37:09.940 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Riley Bowman>We have some kits that come with band-aids and

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.460
<v Riley Bowman>things like our larger kits uh the uh the

00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:22.940
<v Riley Bowman>wind river for instance is one the um so what i'm thinking of uh wind river

00:37:22.940 --> 00:37:27.220
<v Riley Bowman>is one of the more popular ones and it's got it comes with band-aids and it's

00:37:27.220 --> 00:37:34.040
<v Riley Bowman>got uh tylenol and ibuprofen and uh you know benadryl basic you know generic

00:37:34.040 --> 00:37:35.560
<v Riley Bowman>benadryl and things like that,

00:37:36.160 --> 00:37:41.100
<v Riley Bowman>burn and stain cream, and some of those more first aid type items.

00:37:41.260 --> 00:37:45.420
<v Riley Bowman>So it's kind of nice to have some of those things. That comes in some of the larger kits. Yeah.

00:37:46.120 --> 00:37:48.740
<v Brian McLaughlin>First aid things are, that's what you're gonna be using first.

00:37:49.460 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Brian McLaughlin>Obviously you're not gonna be using your trauma kit every day, hopefully.

00:37:53.345 --> 00:37:55.685
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know you might be in a job like you were in construction.

00:37:55.685 --> 00:37:56.625
<v Riley Bowman>Yep like

00:37:56.625 --> 00:38:00.085
<v Brian McLaughlin>If you're just working in an office job every day you need a trauma kit yeah

00:38:00.085 --> 00:38:04.005
<v Brian McLaughlin>but if you're working a job like construction or you're logging or you're a

00:38:04.005 --> 00:38:07.385
<v Brian McLaughlin>farmer or yeah whatever it is you're doing something a little extra sketchy

00:38:07.385 --> 00:38:11.005
<v Brian McLaughlin>you need a trauma kit yeah a couple yeah probably.

00:38:11.005 --> 00:38:14.845
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah logging like you mentioned that's that's a really yeah how

00:38:14.845 --> 00:38:18.845
<v Riley Bowman>many dudes have uh run the chainsaw into their you know or through their leg

00:38:18.845 --> 00:38:23.525
<v Riley Bowman>uh my wife was trained as an emt in the 70s everyone should have at least basic

00:38:23.525 --> 00:38:27.185
<v Riley Bowman>training and gear for trauma care this is brian again on youtube commenting

00:38:27.185 --> 00:38:31.465
<v Riley Bowman>thanks man appreciate you tuning in um all right let's shift gears a little

00:38:31.465 --> 00:38:34.605
<v Riley Bowman>bit brian uh other brian now brian on the podcast

00:38:35.685 --> 00:38:40.305
<v Riley Bowman>uh let's talk about common mistakes people make with respect to their training

00:38:41.435 --> 00:38:45.375
<v Brian McLaughlin>Hmm. Hmm. Uh, common training mistakes.

00:38:45.775 --> 00:38:50.795
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. Um, okay. I would say, uh, training scars are one of those things that

00:38:50.795 --> 00:38:53.775
<v Brian McLaughlin>you need to make sure you're getting your training from reputable people.

00:38:54.015 --> 00:38:57.915
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. Uh, people with a lot of experience and they actually know what they're

00:38:57.915 --> 00:39:01.115
<v Brian McLaughlin>doing. I know there's a lot of TikTok channels out there and a lot of different things.

00:39:01.275 --> 00:39:05.855
<v Brian McLaughlin>Um, but getting that training in person from somebody that is reputable,

00:39:05.855 --> 00:39:09.935
<v Brian McLaughlin>who can teach you all of the correct things and why to do it is very important.

00:39:10.255 --> 00:39:13.315
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. Um, and make sure that you're understanding, you know,

00:39:13.475 --> 00:39:16.555
<v Brian McLaughlin>uh, the basics of, of, you know, why you're using all of that stuff.

00:39:16.755 --> 00:39:21.135
<v Brian McLaughlin>And I think also getting a lot of training from different instructors is one

00:39:21.135 --> 00:39:22.355
<v Brian McLaughlin>of the most important things.

00:39:22.495 --> 00:39:25.075
<v Brian McLaughlin>I've been doing this for a long time. I'm pretty well trained.

00:39:25.295 --> 00:39:29.415
<v Brian McLaughlin>I've, I've, I've studied this for quite a while, but every time I get a chance

00:39:29.415 --> 00:39:34.955
<v Brian McLaughlin>to take a basic medical class, like I always pick up some sort of new cool thing

00:39:34.955 --> 00:39:36.135
<v Brian McLaughlin>from the other instructor.

00:39:36.375 --> 00:39:39.855
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, they just approach the medicine in a little bit different way and

00:39:39.855 --> 00:39:42.975
<v Brian McLaughlin>their procedures are a little bit different and I can pick up,

00:39:43.055 --> 00:39:44.595
<v Brian McLaughlin>you know, key little components of that.

00:39:44.755 --> 00:39:48.035
<v Brian McLaughlin>Now, one of the benefits is, is that I can kind of decide what it,

00:39:48.175 --> 00:39:49.975
<v Brian McLaughlin>um, you know, what to take and what to leave.

00:39:50.115 --> 00:39:52.695
<v Brian McLaughlin>Um, you might be a little more limited at that, um, you know,

00:39:52.855 --> 00:39:56.155
<v Brian McLaughlin>um, where you're going to the classes and things, but the more instructors that

00:39:56.155 --> 00:39:59.975
<v Brian McLaughlin>you get to take classes from, just like with gun training, the more you're going

00:39:59.975 --> 00:40:04.835
<v Brian McLaughlin>to pick up key and important details for, um, for the trauma medicine.

00:40:05.155 --> 00:40:08.595
<v Brian McLaughlin>So it's kind of hard because medical is not one of those sexy things.

00:40:08.755 --> 00:40:11.735
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, everybody wants gun training, you know, not as many people want the,

00:40:11.735 --> 00:40:13.175
<v Brian McLaughlin>uh, the medical training. I get that.

00:40:13.335 --> 00:40:16.855
<v Brian McLaughlin>Um, but it's going to be one of the more valuable skills that you're going to

00:40:16.855 --> 00:40:20.875
<v Brian McLaughlin>learn, you know, when you're studying these crafts, this is one of those key components.

00:40:21.135 --> 00:40:25.555
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah, that's good stuff. So you basically answered the question by saying what people should do.

00:40:25.715 --> 00:40:32.015
<v Riley Bowman>So to, to, for me to kind of contrast that and say, what would be a mistake would be, uh, okay.

00:40:32.155 --> 00:40:35.415
<v Riley Bowman>So obviously not getting training at all. That'd be an obvious one.

00:40:35.980 --> 00:40:41.420
<v Riley Bowman>But beyond that, like you said, it's good to get training and exposure to multiple

00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:45.300
<v Riley Bowman>other trainers, maybe training schools and things.

00:40:45.460 --> 00:40:48.300
<v Riley Bowman>So what not to do then would be, and I say this too,

00:40:48.520 --> 00:40:52.380
<v Riley Bowman>also about shooting or pistol or firearm related training as well,

00:40:52.540 --> 00:40:58.240
<v Riley Bowman>is people that tend to just take training from that one instructor over and

00:40:58.240 --> 00:41:00.520
<v Riley Bowman>over and over again. And here's the thing.

00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:08.200
<v Riley Bowman>Even if that one instructor that is your kind of trusted guy or gal is a good instructor,

00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Riley Bowman>the problem is that they will do a great job, but you're still going to have

00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Riley Bowman>a relatively limited perspective, including about certain things.

00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Riley Bowman>I recognize even about myself as an instructor, I have certain blind spots,

00:41:25.620 --> 00:41:29.820
<v Riley Bowman>certain things that, like, if you went and trained with my friend Chris Bean

00:41:29.820 --> 00:41:34.100
<v Riley Bowman>or with Brian Hill or with Chuck Haggard or with Brian McLaughlin,

00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:39.200
<v Riley Bowman>like, each time you train with somebody different, they have a different perspective,

00:41:39.460 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Riley Bowman>a different, you know, they got different experiences they bring to the table.

00:41:44.420 --> 00:41:49.060
<v Riley Bowman>And that's life experience, different world experience, different professional

00:41:49.060 --> 00:41:52.100
<v Riley Bowman>experience. And so that helps you...

00:41:53.102 --> 00:41:58.062
<v Riley Bowman>Have fewer and fewer blind spots yourself because you're just getting exposed

00:41:58.062 --> 00:42:03.282
<v Riley Bowman>to more varying degrees of perspectives on things.

00:42:04.382 --> 00:42:08.142
<v Riley Bowman>And this, again, is true with any kind of training, I think, you get.

00:42:08.382 --> 00:42:13.962
<v Riley Bowman>So I know that it's fairly common, particularly for folks that maybe live in

00:42:13.962 --> 00:42:15.802
<v Riley Bowman>a more metropolitan area.

00:42:15.842 --> 00:42:18.802
<v Riley Bowman>You've got a lot more of these kind of like indoor ranges and a lot,

00:42:18.802 --> 00:42:23.482
<v Riley Bowman>And I bless their hearts, like truly, legitimately, some of these indoor ranges

00:42:23.482 --> 00:42:28.642
<v Riley Bowman>take it very seriously to have a robust training program with a bunch of different classes.

00:42:28.642 --> 00:42:32.462
<v Riley Bowman>And they have a certain, you know, training staff on hand to teach those classes.

00:42:33.002 --> 00:42:38.982
<v Riley Bowman>And it's great and wonderful they can create that culture of training within their facility.

00:42:39.902 --> 00:42:43.402
<v Riley Bowman>But even then, like if all you do is go to your local range and,

00:42:43.702 --> 00:42:45.042
<v Riley Bowman>well, I'm going to take their next class.

00:42:45.202 --> 00:42:48.062
<v Riley Bowman>Okay, now I'm going to take their next class. Oh, I'm going to take their other class here.

00:42:48.802 --> 00:42:52.662
<v Riley Bowman>It's still good to expand yourself out beyond that.

00:42:53.302 --> 00:42:59.062
<v Riley Bowman>I wouldn't trade for anything the fact that I've had the opportunity to train

00:42:59.062 --> 00:43:04.722
<v Riley Bowman>with so many different people over the years in so many different locations, too.

00:43:05.162 --> 00:43:09.762
<v Riley Bowman>Not everyone's as easily able to travel around the country, let's say,

00:43:09.902 --> 00:43:11.122
<v Riley Bowman>and take training courses.

00:43:11.122 --> 00:43:15.222
<v Riley Bowman>But that's another thing that's kind of an interesting thing I'll just point

00:43:15.222 --> 00:43:19.002
<v Riley Bowman>out, Brian, that, you know, I've taken classes for myself, not traveled to teach

00:43:19.002 --> 00:43:20.822
<v Riley Bowman>classes, but although I've done that.

00:43:21.496 --> 00:43:27.456
<v Riley Bowman>But I have traveled to places like New Hampshire, Texas, Iowa,

00:43:28.416 --> 00:43:34.456
<v Riley Bowman>I'm trying to think where else, Wyoming, of course, here in Colorado.

00:43:35.216 --> 00:43:36.896
<v Riley Bowman>I know I'm missing places, but

00:43:36.896 --> 00:43:41.036
<v Riley Bowman>I've just already listed stuff all over the country. Oh, Portland, Oregon.

00:43:41.616 --> 00:43:46.676
<v Riley Bowman>I've traveled there to take a class. And you don't just expose yourself to different

00:43:46.676 --> 00:43:49.596
<v Riley Bowman>instructors by going to these different

00:43:49.596 --> 00:43:53.276
<v Riley Bowman>courses, but you're also exposing yourself to different cultures.

00:43:54.196 --> 00:43:58.276
<v Riley Bowman>And you get exposed to – and part of that is getting exposed to different,

00:43:58.276 --> 00:44:00.496
<v Riley Bowman>like, classmates in these classes.

00:44:00.796 --> 00:44:06.476
<v Riley Bowman>And even some of the lessons I've learned has come from my fellow students because

00:44:06.476 --> 00:44:10.276
<v Riley Bowman>you meet some really fascinating people with fascinating backgrounds.

00:44:10.736 --> 00:44:13.836
<v Riley Bowman>And you're like, wow, I would have never thought of that before,

00:44:14.056 --> 00:44:18.476
<v Riley Bowman>except for that I traveled to, you know, Iowa and took this class,

00:44:18.856 --> 00:44:20.476
<v Riley Bowman>you know, with such instructor.

00:44:20.856 --> 00:44:24.116
<v Riley Bowman>And right next to me on the firing line was this really awesome,

00:44:24.656 --> 00:44:28.316
<v Riley Bowman>you know, super duper, you know, highly experienced guy.

00:44:28.516 --> 00:44:32.696
<v Riley Bowman>Like I remember, I can think specifically of a guy I trained alongside with in Iowa.

00:44:32.696 --> 00:44:37.856
<v Riley Bowman>It was actually a Scott Didlinski class, but a fellow student on the line was

00:44:37.856 --> 00:44:43.756
<v Riley Bowman>a highly experienced SWAT officer, SWAT cop, had a world, a wealth of experience.

00:44:44.156 --> 00:44:47.476
<v Riley Bowman>And it was just really cool to spend the weekend with a quality person like

00:44:47.476 --> 00:44:48.676
<v Riley Bowman>that and to also learn from him.

00:44:49.547 --> 00:44:54.067
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah, I see it a lot like, it seems a little bit like the gun community is kind

00:44:54.067 --> 00:44:58.927
<v Brian McLaughlin>of like those old Kung Fu movies where the schools get together and fight each other.

00:45:00.487 --> 00:45:04.547
<v Brian McLaughlin>They both do Kung Fu, but this Kung Fu is different from this Kung Fu.

00:45:04.687 --> 00:45:05.727
<v Brian McLaughlin>We don't like each other.

00:45:06.607 --> 00:45:09.647
<v Brian McLaughlin>So I love what you said about the different cultures because each one of the

00:45:09.647 --> 00:45:12.147
<v Brian McLaughlin>instructors brings their own culture.

00:45:12.887 --> 00:45:16.287
<v Brian McLaughlin>And some of the cultures might rub you a little bit differently.

00:45:16.287 --> 00:45:19.547
<v Brian McLaughlin>Absolutely. you know and some of them might be awesome and some of them might

00:45:19.547 --> 00:45:22.607
<v Brian McLaughlin>not you know and that's just all part of the fun of getting out there and getting

00:45:22.607 --> 00:45:26.007
<v Brian McLaughlin>the experience you know the different people in the gun community and getting

00:45:26.007 --> 00:45:29.787
<v Brian McLaughlin>to learn from different experts in different various crafts you know in this

00:45:29.787 --> 00:45:32.127
<v Brian McLaughlin>particular uh field i think it's amazing yeah.

00:45:32.127 --> 00:45:36.547
<v Riley Bowman>Any other training related mistakes that you that comes to mind

00:45:36.547 --> 00:45:40.547
<v Brian McLaughlin>Oh training not guys stakes um,

00:45:43.227 --> 00:45:52.847
<v Brian McLaughlin>I think one of the things that I've noticed a lot is not working hard enough on the repetitions.

00:45:53.187 --> 00:45:57.527
<v Brian McLaughlin>One of the things that people will do is kind of try to go too fast when they're

00:45:57.527 --> 00:46:01.167
<v Brian McLaughlin>applying the tourniquets and everything, when they're in training.

00:46:02.047 --> 00:46:07.987
<v Brian McLaughlin>Even when you are in an actual emergency, you don't want to go as fast as you

00:46:07.987 --> 00:46:10.267
<v Brian McLaughlin>can because if you do, you make mistakes. Yeah.

00:46:10.447 --> 00:46:13.727
<v Brian McLaughlin>So one of the most important things that you can do in training is to slow yourself down.

00:46:13.947 --> 00:46:19.547
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, um, I've seen great effect for myself in trying to achieve a 70% rule.

00:46:19.847 --> 00:46:26.327
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, I, I try not to go full max 100% because that's where all your mistakes are made.

00:46:26.507 --> 00:46:29.687
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, you're just going to, um, get your tourniquet twisted,

00:46:29.687 --> 00:46:34.947
<v Brian McLaughlin>or maybe you don't get your, um, um, uh, pressure bandage applied appropriately.

00:46:34.947 --> 00:46:39.407
<v Brian McLaughlin>And those little simple mistakes, because you're just trying to go so fast because

00:46:39.407 --> 00:46:42.607
<v Brian McLaughlin>you're like, oh my gosh, this person is in trouble. They're bleeding so quickly.

00:46:42.787 --> 00:46:45.947
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, you got to go fast. So that's something that you can kind of help

00:46:45.947 --> 00:46:49.727
<v Brian McLaughlin>to train yourself out of in the middle of the training that you're trying to

00:46:49.727 --> 00:46:53.987
<v Brian McLaughlin>do is try to slow yourself down a little bit, you know, so that you are applying

00:46:53.987 --> 00:46:55.747
<v Brian McLaughlin>and doing everything correctly.

00:46:55.747 --> 00:46:58.947
<v Brian McLaughlin>This is all just training, you know, so we don't have to, you know,

00:46:58.987 --> 00:47:00.427
<v Brian McLaughlin>we don't have to panic so much.

00:47:00.467 --> 00:47:04.647
<v Brian McLaughlin>So use that as an opportunity to practice doing that 70% speed and that'll help

00:47:04.647 --> 00:47:05.787
<v Brian McLaughlin>you out in the long run, I think.

00:47:05.967 --> 00:47:12.527
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah. Related to that, this would be something I would add to that is when we

00:47:12.527 --> 00:47:15.867
<v Riley Bowman>go through training and we, you know.

00:47:16.788 --> 00:47:21.168
<v Riley Bowman>Well, let me back up just a little bit. So there's two words I would offer to

00:47:21.168 --> 00:47:26.168
<v Riley Bowman>what you just described, Brian, and it would be methodical and intentional. Yeah.

00:47:26.588 --> 00:47:29.808
<v Riley Bowman>Right? That you're intentional with everything you do and that you're methodical

00:47:29.808 --> 00:47:32.208
<v Riley Bowman>and that you just, you know, step by step by step.

00:47:32.328 --> 00:47:35.988
<v Riley Bowman>You just kind of basically follow the fundamentals, if you will,

00:47:36.068 --> 00:47:37.288
<v Riley Bowman>whatever it is you're trying to do.

00:47:37.388 --> 00:47:43.648
<v Riley Bowman>I think this is true in shooting or combatives or trauma-related stuff, right?

00:47:43.828 --> 00:47:47.948
<v Riley Bowman>That, you know, okay, these are the fundamentals. I follow and stick with those

00:47:47.948 --> 00:47:51.968
<v Riley Bowman>fundamentals, and I'm intentional with everything that I do so that I do it

00:47:51.968 --> 00:47:53.088
<v Riley Bowman>right and I do it correctly.

00:47:53.508 --> 00:47:57.768
<v Riley Bowman>Because you're exactly right. When we go at 100%, this is, I think, true of anything we do.

00:47:57.888 --> 00:48:03.848
<v Riley Bowman>If we try to go max speed all the time, it's really easy to make mistakes along the way.

00:48:05.308 --> 00:48:10.548
<v Riley Bowman>And so something that came to my mind as you were talking was one of my first

00:48:10.548 --> 00:48:14.588
<v Riley Bowman>CPR, AED, first aid courses I took years ago.

00:48:15.208 --> 00:48:18.608
<v Riley Bowman>Uh so actually i think it was my first ever

00:48:18.608 --> 00:48:21.608
<v Riley Bowman>course uh so i didn't really know

00:48:21.608 --> 00:48:24.248
<v Riley Bowman>a whole lot then and you know this whole world was kind of new to

00:48:24.248 --> 00:48:28.908
<v Riley Bowman>me and so i'm going through that course and we got to the practical portion

00:48:28.908 --> 00:48:32.908
<v Riley Bowman>right and so we got the dummies and you know we're supposed to go through everything

00:48:32.908 --> 00:48:36.928
<v Riley Bowman>and um you know we're supposed to tap them on the shoulder and talk to them

00:48:36.928 --> 00:48:41.168
<v Riley Bowman>and it felt kind of silly you know to like do all these things because like

00:48:41.168 --> 00:48:43.068
<v Riley Bowman>you're acting it out basically like Like, hey,

00:48:43.148 --> 00:48:47.148
<v Riley Bowman>I'm responding to someone who's unconscious on the ground and,

00:48:47.148 --> 00:48:48.268
<v Riley Bowman>you know, I'm going through,

00:48:48.468 --> 00:48:50.548
<v Riley Bowman>hey, like, are they responsive? Okay.

00:48:51.328 --> 00:48:54.768
<v Riley Bowman>Yes or no. Are they breathing? Yes or no. You know, let's check,

00:48:54.868 --> 00:49:00.968
<v Riley Bowman>you know, like, and what I noticed with some of my fellow attendees or students was,

00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:06.180
<v Riley Bowman>was they were just going through motions, you know, and whether it's because,

00:49:06.340 --> 00:49:09.860
<v Riley Bowman>and I think this happens because you have, in some cases, people are there just

00:49:09.860 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Riley Bowman>to fulfill an assignment,

00:49:11.240 --> 00:49:15.260
<v Riley Bowman>meaning that for their job, their employer, whatever, sent them to this first

00:49:15.260 --> 00:49:20.680
<v Riley Bowman>aid CPR AED course to just, because they, they're required to be certified and

00:49:20.680 --> 00:49:23.500
<v Riley Bowman>they've done it, you know, three, four, five times before.

00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.640
<v Riley Bowman>And so it's like, Hey, I'm just here to collect my card, man,

00:49:26.740 --> 00:49:28.900
<v Riley Bowman>to get my certificate or whatever, right?

00:49:29.260 --> 00:49:33.720
<v Riley Bowman>And I'm required to be here because of my job and therefore my heart's not in it.

00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:38.320
<v Riley Bowman>And so the instructors up here, maybe the instructors are even distracted for

00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.720
<v Riley Bowman>a minute, you know, watching this group over here do their thing.

00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:46.080
<v Riley Bowman>And so over here, my fellow student is just not really, you know,

00:49:46.340 --> 00:49:47.220
<v Riley Bowman>going through intentionally.

00:49:47.600 --> 00:49:48.560
<v Riley Bowman>They're just going through the

00:49:48.560 --> 00:49:51.940
<v Riley Bowman>motions. So they're not really applying themselves fully and completely.

00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:58.700
<v Riley Bowman>So when I started to try to, you know, follow through on the steps very methodically

00:49:58.700 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Riley Bowman>and intentionally, I felt a little bit embarrassed, you know,

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.540
<v Riley Bowman>with my little group of like two or three other people.

00:50:05.383 --> 00:50:08.223
<v Riley Bowman>Because, you know, they're just kind of like, whatever, you know,

00:50:08.263 --> 00:50:11.183
<v Riley Bowman>not taking it that seriously. And here I was trying to take it seriously.

00:50:11.323 --> 00:50:15.123
<v Riley Bowman>And so now I'm like, oh, do I, you know, you're in that little,

00:50:15.123 --> 00:50:19.843
<v Riley Bowman>uh, social situation of, well, I don't want to look dumb in front of these people.

00:50:20.023 --> 00:50:23.423
<v Riley Bowman>And they're obviously too cool to, you know, do everything correctly.

00:50:23.743 --> 00:50:28.563
<v Riley Bowman>You know, so it's like trying to, I just felt really out of place in that kind of situation.

00:50:28.723 --> 00:50:31.683
<v Riley Bowman>And the next time I went through, you know, for recertification,

00:50:31.683 --> 00:50:36.243
<v Riley Bowman>um, I was like, I don't care what these other people do or what they think, I'm here for me.

00:50:36.383 --> 00:50:40.563
<v Riley Bowman>And I'm making sure I do everything the way it's supposed to be done so that

00:50:40.563 --> 00:50:44.963
<v Riley Bowman>I know I can respond correctly when it really counts and the stress is on.

00:50:45.603 --> 00:50:50.163
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. I love the idea of step-by-step. This stuff is really not that hard.

00:50:51.143 --> 00:50:56.043
<v Brian McLaughlin>Taking care of somebody in an emergency, keeping blood in their body is really pretty simple.

00:50:56.443 --> 00:51:00.663
<v Brian McLaughlin>And like you said, it's just a step-by-step process. They call it the March algorithm. them.

00:51:00.983 --> 00:51:05.463
<v Brian McLaughlin>It's really easy. You just kind of start at the beginning and you just work your way down.

00:51:05.543 --> 00:51:08.643
<v Brian McLaughlin>And by the time that you're at the end, if help hasn't shown up,

00:51:08.783 --> 00:51:11.223
<v Brian McLaughlin>you just start at the beginning again and work your way down.

00:51:11.763 --> 00:51:15.363
<v Brian McLaughlin>And if you have multiple casualties, you just do that to everybody.

00:51:15.643 --> 00:51:20.843
<v Brian McLaughlin>It's not that difficult, but you got to know the process first. And that helps a lot.

00:51:21.023 --> 00:51:24.903
<v Brian McLaughlin>Once you understand each one of those steps, you practice each one of those steps,

00:51:25.593 --> 00:51:30.573
<v Brian McLaughlin>repetitive, right? And, and doing this like once a year, at least I think is

00:51:30.573 --> 00:51:33.633
<v Brian McLaughlin>important for keeping this in the back of your head. These are all perishable skills.

00:51:33.993 --> 00:51:38.993
<v Brian McLaughlin>If you don't continue to do these on a regular basis, you're going to forget all of these things.

00:51:39.113 --> 00:51:42.873
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, it's not quite like, you know, a holster work, you know,

00:51:42.953 --> 00:51:48.653
<v Brian McLaughlin>where you are working on your presentation of your weapon that takes consistent

00:51:48.653 --> 00:51:52.153
<v Brian McLaughlin>effort for you to constantly keep those skills nice and sharp.

00:51:52.153 --> 00:51:57.433
<v Brian McLaughlin>But these basic medical skills, it doesn't really require that much extra effort

00:51:57.433 --> 00:52:00.253
<v Brian McLaughlin>to kind of maintain them, you know, once or twice a year,

00:52:00.433 --> 00:52:07.153
<v Brian McLaughlin>checking out the Mountain Man Medical online trauma course or getting some other

00:52:07.153 --> 00:52:11.313
<v Brian McLaughlin>type of education where you are just keeping these skills in the back of your

00:52:11.313 --> 00:52:15.093
<v Brian McLaughlin>mind so that they're nice and fresh and sharp for when you need them.

00:52:16.104 --> 00:52:21.344
<v Riley Bowman>What are some of the different options for training that you're familiar with

00:52:21.344 --> 00:52:23.284
<v Riley Bowman>that exist out there, whether that's organizational,

00:52:23.564 --> 00:52:28.244
<v Riley Bowman>different organizations, or different classes that you think people should be

00:52:28.244 --> 00:52:31.164
<v Riley Bowman>aware of that they should look into perhaps attending?

00:52:31.704 --> 00:52:38.164
<v Brian McLaughlin>That's a hard one. I know there's a lot of BLS classes for using the AEDs and things.

00:52:38.204 --> 00:52:43.684
<v Riley Bowman>And BLS being basic life saving, right? I just want to make sure in case I don't

00:52:43.684 --> 00:52:50.244
<v Riley Bowman>want to assume that people don't know. So what qualifies as a BLS course? What does that cover?

00:52:50.524 --> 00:52:55.564
<v Brian McLaughlin>That's how to use the AED. So if somebody drops down and they've got cardiac

00:52:55.564 --> 00:52:59.544
<v Brian McLaughlin>rest or whatever, it's how to place all of the various components and stuff.

00:52:59.624 --> 00:53:03.564
<v Brian McLaughlin>And so a lot of people will need that for their various jobs for wherever you're doing.

00:53:03.744 --> 00:53:08.044
<v Brian McLaughlin>So that's one of the most common ones. But when it comes to emergency medical

00:53:08.044 --> 00:53:12.264
<v Brian McLaughlin>classes, like if you're trying to do a trauma class, that's much more difficult

00:53:12.264 --> 00:53:16.044
<v Brian McLaughlin>to get. But there's not very many people that are providing those.

00:53:16.224 --> 00:53:20.164
<v Riley Bowman>So what comes to my mind is, you know, like, and I would encourage this,

00:53:20.284 --> 00:53:22.844
<v Riley Bowman>you know, feel free to disagree with me, but I don't think you will.

00:53:23.304 --> 00:53:26.924
<v Riley Bowman>But I would just encourage people to, hey, a good place to start because they

00:53:26.924 --> 00:53:30.344
<v Riley Bowman>are readily, like you can get on, like, say, American Heart Association's website,

00:53:30.464 --> 00:53:37.344
<v Riley Bowman>for instance, and you can find a first aid CPR AED course near you, probably.

00:53:37.344 --> 00:53:41.944
<v Riley Bowman>And even in a lot of like little towns, there's typically may not be like as

00:53:41.944 --> 00:53:45.604
<v Riley Bowman>frequently, you know, available, but there's going to be an option relatively

00:53:45.604 --> 00:53:49.484
<v Riley Bowman>near you for a course like that, a BLS type course.

00:53:50.484 --> 00:53:54.684
<v Riley Bowman>And I say American Heart Association because they're one of the primary providers, that kind of thing.

00:53:55.744 --> 00:53:58.844
<v Riley Bowman>You can just go on their website, look it up and go take one of those courses.

00:53:58.904 --> 00:54:03.224
<v Riley Bowman>And that's going to train you up on some basic first aid. It's not gonna be

00:54:03.224 --> 00:54:07.724
<v Riley Bowman>on the level of even like probably a stop the bleed course in terms of like

00:54:07.724 --> 00:54:12.084
<v Riley Bowman>trauma, dealing with massive hemorrhage for instance.

00:54:13.287 --> 00:54:18.747
<v Riley Bowman>But you're going to get some CPR training, which is key, and AED training, which is good.

00:54:18.987 --> 00:54:21.747
<v Riley Bowman>Okay, yeah, you can say I've got an AED or access to an AED,

00:54:21.887 --> 00:54:23.807
<v Riley Bowman>and yes, it's going to walk me through it step by step.

00:54:23.867 --> 00:54:27.407
<v Riley Bowman>But I think it's good to go through the actual training and just get the certification.

00:54:27.407 --> 00:54:30.107
<v Riley Bowman>It's easy to do, and it's really low cost.

00:54:30.407 --> 00:54:32.207
<v Brian McLaughlin>Stop the bleed is a great option.

00:54:32.327 --> 00:54:33.987
<v Riley Bowman>And then the next step, I would say, would be stop the bleed,

00:54:34.087 --> 00:54:36.267
<v Riley Bowman>which again is readily available.

00:54:36.407 --> 00:54:40.007
<v Brian McLaughlin>You got to go to an in-person class so that they can walk you through how to

00:54:40.007 --> 00:54:42.347
<v Brian McLaughlin>apply the tourniquets and the boom packing and things like that.

00:54:42.347 --> 00:54:46.687
<v Brian McLaughlin>But ultimately that's your best option google stop the bleed instructors in

00:54:46.687 --> 00:54:49.527
<v Brian McLaughlin>your area and they'll get you set up with a course yeah.

00:54:49.527 --> 00:54:54.627
<v Riley Bowman>It's like you can just go to stop the bleed.org i think right yeah and and find

00:54:54.627 --> 00:54:58.787
<v Riley Bowman>a course near you so go do that so then i'm kind of next thing above that um

00:54:58.787 --> 00:55:02.207
<v Riley Bowman>you got a lot i think that's where it gets a little bit messier and i think

00:55:02.207 --> 00:55:05.547
<v Riley Bowman>that's probably where your mind was that was you know because there's a lot

00:55:05.547 --> 00:55:08.047
<v Riley Bowman>of different options a lot of different schools.

00:55:09.147 --> 00:55:16.087
<v Riley Bowman>But you do have some, you know, actual like TCCC type courses that are built

00:55:16.087 --> 00:55:23.407
<v Riley Bowman>around the curriculum developed by the committee on TCCC, tactical casualty or tactical care.

00:55:23.927 --> 00:55:28.347
<v Riley Bowman>Jeez. What does it stand for again? Tactical Combat Casualty Care.

00:55:28.507 --> 00:55:32.587
<v Riley Bowman>There we go. There it is. Struggling to get all the C words out of my mouth. Okay.

00:55:33.027 --> 00:55:36.867
<v Riley Bowman>And so there's a lot of different uh, T triple C courses that you could find

00:55:36.867 --> 00:55:37.987
<v Riley Bowman>from different instructors.

00:55:38.027 --> 00:55:41.487
<v Riley Bowman>And that's where I think you'll find some varying degrees of quality amongst

00:55:41.487 --> 00:55:46.507
<v Riley Bowman>instructors probably cause you got, you know, different guys teaching that. Um, but, uh,

00:55:47.244 --> 00:55:50.144
<v Riley Bowman>And that's obviously true about any of those courses we just mentioned.

00:55:50.364 --> 00:55:54.864
<v Riley Bowman>But you start getting into those a little bit more advanced trauma-type courses,

00:55:54.864 --> 00:56:00.884
<v Riley Bowman>I think it becomes a little bit more important that you really get with a quality trainer.

00:56:01.724 --> 00:56:05.524
<v Riley Bowman>You have some training conferences you can attend. And I'm not just talking

00:56:05.524 --> 00:56:08.524
<v Riley Bowman>about the Guardian Conference, but of course I am talking about the Guardian Conference.

00:56:08.904 --> 00:56:12.864
<v Riley Bowman>But there are some courses available, things like the Girl and a Gun National Conference.

00:56:12.864 --> 00:56:17.224
<v Riley Bowman>Conference um there's some stuff at tac con um active self-protections national

00:56:17.224 --> 00:56:20.804
<v Riley Bowman>conference they've got some training there typically right and so there's some

00:56:20.804 --> 00:56:24.184
<v Riley Bowman>different training conferences you could go to where you could find some medical

00:56:24.184 --> 00:56:29.144
<v Riley Bowman>uh you know trauma courses um and so remind folks again what you're teaching

00:56:29.144 --> 00:56:31.524
<v Riley Bowman>this year at the guardian conference uh

00:56:31.524 --> 00:56:37.764
<v Brian McLaughlin>It's going to be defensive combat casualty care so if you have a pistol and

00:56:37.764 --> 00:56:42.304
<v Brian McLaughlin>you get into a gunfight like what are some of the things that you're going to need to do medically.

00:56:42.704 --> 00:56:45.804
<v Brian McLaughlin>You know, it's a standard. If you're getting into a fight, you're probably going

00:56:45.804 --> 00:56:48.804
<v Brian McLaughlin>to get hurt or other people around the area are going to get hurt and you got

00:56:48.804 --> 00:56:49.884
<v Brian McLaughlin>to know how to take care of that.

00:56:50.124 --> 00:56:53.044
<v Brian McLaughlin>And so we got a live fire component where you get to practice all that stuff

00:56:53.044 --> 00:56:57.624
<v Brian McLaughlin>while you get to shoot targets, um, and, uh, um, and get a little like real

00:56:57.624 --> 00:56:59.504
<v Brian McLaughlin>life experience kind of thing.

00:56:59.604 --> 00:57:02.904
<v Riley Bowman>I saw it too long ago, an officer involved shooting where officer,

00:57:03.064 --> 00:57:06.244
<v Riley Bowman>like the, the incident starts off with officer basically getting stabbed,

00:57:06.244 --> 00:57:09.304
<v Riley Bowman>except he doesn't even realize he's been stabbed yet like

00:57:09.304 --> 00:57:12.744
<v Riley Bowman>he just knows oh threats in my face um i

00:57:12.744 --> 00:57:15.884
<v Riley Bowman>just got punched or something and i see a knife in

00:57:15.884 --> 00:57:20.084
<v Riley Bowman>the guy's hand so of course you know he draws his gun he burns the guy down

00:57:20.084 --> 00:57:26.464
<v Riley Bowman>situation's over and it's like after the situation's over guy is dead on the

00:57:26.464 --> 00:57:32.864
<v Riley Bowman>ground cuffed um that the other responding officer is like hey buddy you're you're bleeding.

00:57:33.184 --> 00:57:37.604
<v Riley Bowman>So like this officer had no idea he got stabbed, like right up here in the neck

00:57:37.604 --> 00:57:40.904
<v Riley Bowman>area, you know, and that could have been very, it probably was still serious,

00:57:40.944 --> 00:57:42.524
<v Riley Bowman>but I mean, it could have been like really serious.

00:57:42.664 --> 00:57:45.944
<v Riley Bowman>Like he could have been already dead by that point. Fortunately he wasn't and

00:57:45.944 --> 00:57:47.444
<v Riley Bowman>he got care and he turned out. Okay.

00:57:47.644 --> 00:57:50.224
<v Riley Bowman>But like, that's how fast this kind of stuff can happen.

00:57:51.070 --> 00:57:54.230
<v Riley Bowman>And it can happen and be done and over with. And you're like,

00:57:54.330 --> 00:57:58.810
<v Riley Bowman>oh, man, that was crazy, but I got through it.

00:57:59.130 --> 00:58:01.930
<v Riley Bowman>And yet maybe you're not quite through it.

00:58:02.330 --> 00:58:04.750
<v Riley Bowman>And see, that's the kind of thing you're talking about, Brian,

00:58:04.870 --> 00:58:08.410
<v Riley Bowman>is like people get hurt in these kind of situations.

00:58:08.470 --> 00:58:12.050
<v Riley Bowman>And sometimes they don't even know they're hurt because adrenaline is going on.

00:58:12.050 --> 00:58:17.190
<v Riley Bowman>And, and, uh, I can't tell you how many times I've heard or read the statement, uh,

00:58:17.390 --> 00:58:20.950
<v Riley Bowman>and heard from other trainers that have talked about this very thing where somebody

00:58:20.950 --> 00:58:24.030
<v Riley Bowman>gets stabbed and they don't know they're stabbed and they would describe it

00:58:24.030 --> 00:58:28.810
<v Riley Bowman>to you as, well, I got punched in the chest because it's so quick and it's in and out and it's clean.

00:58:29.450 --> 00:58:33.950
<v Riley Bowman>And, uh, it's not until minutes later that you're like, there's something wrong here.

00:58:34.290 --> 00:58:36.510
<v Brian McLaughlin>Yeah. That's a stab wounds are very notorious for that.

00:58:36.510 --> 00:58:44.430
<v Riley Bowman>So anyway, yeah, know what to do after the aftermath of any defensive kind of

00:58:44.430 --> 00:58:47.830
<v Riley Bowman>situation that that's when we got to be concerned with.

00:58:49.044 --> 00:58:52.644
<v Riley Bowman>Patching holes, patching holes. Yeah. Keeping blood in people. Yeah. Potentially.

00:58:53.144 --> 00:58:56.044
<v Riley Bowman>Yeah. This has been good, Brian. Uh, unfortunately we're out of time.

00:58:56.184 --> 00:58:59.864
<v Riley Bowman>Uh, but, uh, thank you for coming on to talk with us about, uh,

00:58:59.984 --> 00:59:03.904
<v Riley Bowman>voiding common trauma gear and training mistakes.

00:59:04.184 --> 00:59:09.104
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00:59:39.124 --> 00:59:43.244
<v Riley Bowman>Also go to guardianconference.com and sign up for this year's conference.

00:59:43.264 --> 00:59:46.444
<v Riley Bowman>We hope to see you there and see you in one of Brian's courses and see you in

00:59:46.444 --> 00:59:51.364
<v Riley Bowman>one of my courses and Chuck Haggard's and Cecil Birch will be teaching combatives

00:59:51.364 --> 00:59:53.604
<v Riley Bowman>and Don West will be back teaching.

00:59:54.024 --> 00:59:59.064
<v Riley Bowman>I mean, if you don't know him, he's one of the brightest legal minds in use

00:59:59.064 --> 01:00:01.384
<v Riley Bowman>of force defense cases in the country,

01:00:01.864 --> 01:00:09.064
<v Riley Bowman>teaching use of force and trial defense law and stuff like that. Okay.

01:00:09.344 --> 01:00:13.604
<v Riley Bowman>So come to the Guardian Conference this year, guardianconference.com.

01:00:13.864 --> 01:00:18.964
<v Riley Bowman>Sign up today. we hope to see you there that's it for me anything you got you

01:00:18.964 --> 01:00:20.284
<v Riley Bowman>want to leave people with i

01:00:20.284 --> 01:00:24.984
<v Brian McLaughlin>Hate uh stay safe out there get yourself a trauma kit get the training um and be prepared.

01:00:24.984 --> 01:00:28.984
<v Riley Bowman>Awesome guys until next time a reminder to train right train often and train

01:00:28.984 --> 01:00:32.904
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01:00:46.803 --> 01:00:49.063
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01:00:49.063 --> 01:00:51.003
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01:00:51.363 --> 01:00:53.443
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